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Fri, 03 Nov 2023 01:29:54 -0700 (PDT) --I1jQczm8fw5Fu96M Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Nov 02, 2023 at 10:35:47AM -0600, Jonathan Corbet wrote: > So my immediate response to this is pretty uniformly negative. >=20 > - If you don't like serif, tweaking conf.py is easy enough without > pushing it on everybody else. As local commit of course. >=20 > - I'm not thrilled about adding a bunch of binary font data to the > kernel, and suspect a lot of people would not feel that the bloat is > worth it. MediaWiki project takes the same stance regarding web fonts: > What about using webfonts? > > Webfonts is a system to deliver a font to users who do not have it instal= led. > This involves having a user's browser download a font we provide, which c= auses > additional resources to load and would have a negative impact on site > performance (i.e. how fast pages load). This is particularly true for old= er > browsers. In the future we may explore using webfonts, but for now this u= pdate > provides greater readability and consistency while not degrading page load > times. Indeed, it's possible to achieve the same effect without resorting to web fonts (as MediaWiki did), see [1]. >=20 > - The licensing of the fonts is not fully free. That was being discussed on the original RFC thread. >=20 > There's so much we can do to improve our documentation and access to it; > messing around with web fonts seems - to me, at least - pretty low on > the list. >=20 > I suppose I can ask people at the kernel summit session in a couple > weeks to see if others feel differently. OK, I want to hear about their opinion. Thanks. [1]: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Typography_refresh --=20 An old man doll... just what I always wanted! - Clara --I1jQczm8fw5Fu96M Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iHUEABYKAB0WIQSSYQ6Cy7oyFNCHrUH2uYlJVVFOowUCZUSvbAAKCRD2uYlJVVFO o+UHAQCt9yzSppTguWjvALTOz9ee0uHu5vMdzTTRmA8X+gPlJAEAsUjhBKMibYVc oRCK/CmbYw1pojwttDiRNoFrDXjvwww= =ahSS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --I1jQczm8fw5Fu96M--