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[2620:137:e000::3:8]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id s6-20020a656446000000b005bdfe7528c9si10334917pgv.726.2023.11.15.09.57.47 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Wed, 15 Nov 2023 09:57:47 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 2620:137:e000::3:8 as permitted sender) client-ip=2620:137:e000::3:8; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@kernel.org header.s=k20201202 header.b=sYMwAppS; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 2620:137:e000::3:8 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=kernel.org Received: from out1.vger.email (depot.vger.email [IPv6:2620:137:e000::3:0]) by fry.vger.email (Postfix) with ESMTP id 542728108357; Wed, 15 Nov 2023 09:57:45 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.103.11 at fry.vger.email Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S232109AbjKOR5h (ORCPT + 99 others); Wed, 15 Nov 2023 12:57:37 -0500 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:60470 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S232587AbjKOR5g (ORCPT ); Wed, 15 Nov 2023 12:57:36 -0500 Received: from smtp.kernel.org (relay.kernel.org [52.25.139.140]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 55E481B8 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2023 09:57:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 347A3C433C9; Wed, 15 Nov 2023 17:57:32 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=k20201202; t=1700071052; bh=E3+pzFE8iRYk10BdpmIpByslUyT/gQ7QPb0/TlBw07E=; h=Date:Subject:To:Cc:References:From:In-Reply-To:From; b=sYMwAppSrkFvV55qdH71dJUqxdPf4EtCzT7b0rurs6aACyonFhzTdiwzdo1A2Rwt/ 4p2lM+kUPpklLWYibyFLRyndk751SQPckZZrT4NuTgBABNyNDqmhOs7nwEMSRLYlE+ HQPUpzMnCC1oBIIbqqafAZ8wFo0g0dAJZy9cTbxWiozd2mutJyPno5SsG/TxsAKZp2 A0scdnVV2KQ4M069VtaVI5APNpWlDj5rxGmpsTnDsLsNqAH/NwbYEeov5CHDnHb+cZ YHl1i1jAJ6oxfwysQQcqQ8wIM9e8hzADbH2frm4is9g+Xr721q45TnI1MzZJA1Q+eu 1J63Z1wtuZcNQ== Message-ID: Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2023 10:57:30 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 3/8] memory-provider: dmabuf devmem memory provider Content-Language: en-US To: Yunsheng Lin , Jason Gunthorpe , Mina Almasry Cc: Jakub Kicinski , davem@davemloft.net, pabeni@redhat.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Willem de Bruijn , Kaiyuan Zhang , Jesper Dangaard Brouer , Ilias Apalodimas , Eric Dumazet , =?UTF-8?Q?Christian_K=C3=B6nig?= , Matthew Wilcox , Linux-MM References: <20231113130041.58124-1-linyunsheng@huawei.com> <20231113130041.58124-4-linyunsheng@huawei.com> <20231113180554.1d1c6b1a@kernel.org> <0c39bd57-5d67-3255-9da2-3f3194ee5a66@huawei.com> From: David Ahern In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=DKIMWL_WL_HIGH,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on fry.vger.email Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.4 (fry.vger.email [0.0.0.0]); Wed, 15 Nov 2023 09:57:45 -0800 (PST) On 11/15/23 2:21 AM, Yunsheng Lin wrote: > On 2023/11/14 21:16, Jason Gunthorpe wrote: >> On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 04:21:26AM -0800, Mina Almasry wrote: >> >>> Actually because you put the 'strtuct page for devmem' in >>> skb->bv_frag, the net stack will grab the 'struct page' for devmem >>> using skb_frag_page() then call things like page_address(), kmap, >>> get_page, put_page, etc, etc, etc. >> >> Yikes, please no. If net has its own struct page look alike it has to >> stay entirely inside net. A non-mm owned struct page should not be >> passed into mm calls. It is just way too hacky to be seriously >> considered :( > > Yes, that is something this patchset is trying to do, defining its own > struct page look alike for page pool to support devmem. > Networking needs to be able to move away from struct page references. The devmem and host memory for Rx use cases do not need to be page based.