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From:   Yunsheng Lin <linyunsheng@huawei.com>
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Date:   Thu, 16 Nov 2023 19:12:33 +0800
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On 2023/11/16 1:57, David Ahern wrote:
> On 11/15/23 2:21 AM, Yunsheng Lin wrote:
>> On 2023/11/14 21:16, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
>>> On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 04:21:26AM -0800, Mina Almasry wrote:
>>>
>>>> Actually because you put the 'strtuct page for devmem' in
>>>> skb->bv_frag, the net stack will grab the 'struct page' for devmem
>>>> using skb_frag_page() then call things like page_address(), kmap,
>>>> get_page, put_page, etc, etc, etc.
>>>
>>> Yikes, please no. If net has its own struct page look alike it has to
>>> stay entirely inside net. A non-mm owned struct page should not be
>>> passed into mm calls. It is just way too hacky to be seriously
>>> considered :(
>>
>> Yes, that is something this patchset is trying to do, defining its own
>> struct page look alike for page pool to support devmem.
>>
> 
> Networking needs to be able to move away from struct page references.
> The devmem and host memory for Rx use cases do not need to be page based.

Yes, I am agreed the ultimate goal is to move away from struct page
references. But I am not sure if we can do it right away as there
still are different types of existing 'struct page' in the netstack,
see:

https://lore.kernel.org/all/8b7d25eb-1f10-3e37-8753-92b42da3fb34@huawei.com/

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