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From:   =?utf-8?q?Th=C3=A9o_Lebrun?= <theo.lebrun@bootlin.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/6] usb: cdns3-ti: add suspend/resume procedures for
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Hello,

On Thu Nov 16, 2023 at 10:44 PM CET, Roger Quadros wrote:
> On 16/11/2023 20:56, Th=C3=A9o Lebrun wrote:
> > On Thu Nov 16, 2023 at 1:40 PM CET, Roger Quadros wrote:
> >> On 15/11/2023 17:02, Th=C3=A9o Lebrun wrote:
> >>> On Wed Nov 15, 2023 at 12:37 PM CET, Roger Quadros wrote:
> >>>> You might want to check suspend/resume ops in cdns3-plat and
> >>>> do something similar here.
> >>>
> >>> I'm unsure what you are referring to specifically in cdns3-plat?
> >>
> >> What I meant is, calling pm_runtime_get/put() from system suspend/resu=
me
> >> hooks doesn't seem right.
> >>
> >> How about using something like pm_runtime_forbid(dev) on devices which
> >> loose USB context on runtime suspend e.g. J7200.
> >> So at probe we can get rid of the pm_runtime_get_sync() call.
> >=20
> > What is the goal of enabling PM runtime to then block (ie forbid) it in
> > its enabled state until system suspend?
>
> If USB controller retains context on runtime_suspend on some platforms
> then we don't want to forbid PM runtime.

What's the point of runtime PM if nothing is done based on it? This is
the current behavior of the driver.

> > Thinking some more about it and having read parts of the genpd source,
> > it's unclear to me why there even is some PM runtime calls in this
> > driver. No runtime_suspend/runtime_resume callbacks are registered.
> > Also, power-domains work as expected without any PM runtime calls.
>
> Probably it was required when the driver was introduced.

I'm not seeing any behavior change in cdns3-ti since its addition in Oct
2019.

> > The power domain is turned on when attached to a device
> > (see genpd_dev_pm_attach). It gets turned off automatically at
> > suspend_noirq (taking into account the many things that make genpd
> > complex: multiple devices per PD, subdomains, flags to customise the
> > behavior, etc.). Removing calls to PM runtime at probe keeps the driver
> > working.
> >=20
> > So my new proposal would be: remove all all PM runtime calls from this
> > driver. Anything wrong with this approach?
>
> Nothing wrong if we don't expect runtime_pm to work with this driver.
>
> >=20
> > Only possible reason I see for having PM runtime in this wrapper driver
> > would be cut the full power-domain when USB isn't used, with some PM
> > runtime interaction with the children node. But that cannot work
> > currently as we don't register a runtime_resume to init the hardware,
> > so this cannot be the current expected behavior.
> >=20
> >> e.g.
> >>
> >>         pm_runtime_set_active(dev);
> >>         pm_runtime_enable(dev);
> >>         if (cnds_ti->can_loose_context)
> >>                 pm_runtime_forbid(dev);
> >>
> >>         pm_runtime_set_autosuspend_delay(dev, CNDS_TI_AUTOSUSPEND_DELA=
Y);	/* could be 20ms? */
> >=20
> > Why mention autosuspend in this driver? This will turn the device off i=
n
> > CNDS_TI_AUTOSUSPEND_DELAY then nothing enables it back using
> > pm_runtime_get. We have nothing to reconfigure the device, ie no
> > runtime_resume, so we must not go into runtime suspend.
>
> It would be enabled/disabled based on when the child "cdns3,usb"
> does runtime_resume/suspend.

Why care about being enabled or disabled if we don't do anything based
on that? Children does do runtime PM stuff but I don't understand how
that could influence us.

Regards,

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