Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1755616AbXK0Nj6 (ORCPT ); Tue, 27 Nov 2007 08:39:58 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751467AbXK0Njv (ORCPT ); Tue, 27 Nov 2007 08:39:51 -0500 Received: from astoria.ccjclearline.com ([64.235.106.9]:40828 "EHLO astoria.ccjclearline.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750793AbXK0Nju (ORCPT ); Tue, 27 Nov 2007 08:39:50 -0500 Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 08:37:37 -0500 (EST) From: "Robert P. J. Day" X-X-Sender: rpjday@localhost.localdomain To: Jan Engelhardt cc: Ray Lee , Linux Kernel Mailing List Subject: Re: can support for "rpm"-based package building just be dropped? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <2c0942db0711260658j5ce017e7ucce4c373748ed7b7@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - astoria.ccjclearline.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - vger.kernel.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - crashcourse.ca X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1930 Lines: 48 On Mon, 26 Nov 2007, Jan Engelhardt wrote: > > On Nov 26 2007 11:13, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > >> >>>Only on current machines. You'd break building kernel RPMs on older > >> >>>systems that don't have rpmbuild installed. > >> >> > >> >> Those old machines probably do not even run a distro-fabricated > >> >> gcc that would compile a git head kernel. > >> > > >> >well, in a nutshell, the problem scenario is that it's entirely > >> >possible to have a modern distro (say, fedora 8, like i'm using) on > >> >which you have the latest "rpm" package installed, but not > >> >"rpmbuild". > >> > >> What, modern and no rpmbuild? > > > >i didn't say it *wouldn't* have rpmbuild, i said it *might not*. > >at the moment, on my f8 system, the only package that requires the > >rpm-build package is rpmdevtools, and it's entirely possible that > >there's no need for *that* package. > > rpm -b does not work in opensuse anymore (redirects you to use > rpmbuild), and I bet fedora will do the same, so if you don't have > rpm-build, tough luck for make rpm. i know that that's the case *now*, but we're considering the possibility that someone is using an older system on which "rpm" is *still* the builder. in the end, all i'm suggesting is that the build should work under all possible scenarios. rday p.s. i'm not *trying* to make this issue more obfuscated or convoluted than it has to be -- i am merely succeeding. ======================================================================== Robert P. J. Day Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA http://crashcourse.ca ======================================================================== - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/