Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1757794AbXK0Wbn (ORCPT ); Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:31:43 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1752029AbXK0Wbd (ORCPT ); Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:31:33 -0500 Received: from iriserv.iradimed.com ([72.242.190.170]:20834 "EHLO iradimed.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751745AbXK0Wbc (ORCPT ); Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:31:32 -0500 Message-ID: <474C9AC9.8000400@cfl.rr.com> Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:31:37 -0500 From: Phillip Susi User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "H. Peter Anvin" CC: Dave Jones , Stephen Clark , linux-kernel Subject: Re: Power Saving References: <47422D3B.8080704@seclark.us> <20071120005443.GB9243@redhat.com> <474232D9.20407@seclark.us> <20071120011236.GA17420@redhat.com> <474236A0.8030601@zytor.com> In-Reply-To: <474236A0.8030601@zytor.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Nov 2007 22:31:47.0070 (UTC) FILETIME=[4B9639E0:01C83145] X-TM-AS-Product-Ver: SMEX-7.5.0.1243-5.0.1023-15572.001 X-TM-AS-Result: No--9.463500-5.000000-31 X-TM-AS-User-Approved-Sender: No X-TM-AS-User-Blocked-Sender: No Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 881 Lines: 18 H. Peter Anvin wrote: > And more importantly, there is no power advantages over T states as > opposed to C states. They pretty much mean pulsing the system in and > out of either C1 or C2 depending on the CPU/chipset. Well, they FORCE the use of the C states to save power, even if the kernel doesn't want to because it still has runnable tasks. This can be useful if you know you are running a task that busy waits but would not suffer from having the performance of the cpu cut in half. Since it is busy waiting, the kernel never activates the C states, but the throttling will force it and thus, save you power and heat. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/