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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 48/86] rcu: handle quiescent states for PREEMPT_RCU=n
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On Mon, Nov 20, 2023 at 07:26:05PM -0800, Ankur Arora wrote:
> 
> Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@kernel.org> writes:
> > On Tue, Nov 07, 2023 at 01:57:34PM -0800, Ankur Arora wrote:
> >> cond_resched() is used to provide urgent quiescent states for
> >> read-side critical sections on PREEMPT_RCU=n configurations.
> >> This was necessary because lacking preempt_count, there was no
> >> way for the tick handler to know if we were executing in RCU
> >> read-side critical section or not.
> >>
> >> An always-on CONFIG_PREEMPT_COUNT, however, allows the tick to
> >> reliably report quiescent states.
> >>
> >> Accordingly, evaluate preempt_count() based quiescence in
> >> rcu_flavor_sched_clock_irq().
> >>
> >> Suggested-by: Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@kernel.org>
> >> Signed-off-by: Ankur Arora <ankur.a.arora@oracle.com>
> >> ---
> >>  kernel/rcu/tree_plugin.h |  3 ++-
> >>  kernel/sched/core.c      | 15 +--------------
> >>  2 files changed, 3 insertions(+), 15 deletions(-)
> >>
> >> diff --git a/kernel/rcu/tree_plugin.h b/kernel/rcu/tree_plugin.h
> >> index f87191e008ff..618f055f8028 100644
> >> --- a/kernel/rcu/tree_plugin.h
> >> +++ b/kernel/rcu/tree_plugin.h
> >> @@ -963,7 +963,8 @@ static void rcu_preempt_check_blocked_tasks(struct rcu_node *rnp)
> >>   */
> >>  static void rcu_flavor_sched_clock_irq(int user)
> >>  {
> >> -	if (user || rcu_is_cpu_rrupt_from_idle()) {
> >> +	if (user || rcu_is_cpu_rrupt_from_idle() ||
> >> +	    !(preempt_count() & (PREEMPT_MASK | SOFTIRQ_MASK))) {
> >
> > This looks good.
> >
> >>  		/*
> >>  		 * Get here if this CPU took its interrupt from user
> >> diff --git a/kernel/sched/core.c b/kernel/sched/core.c
> >> index bf5df2b866df..15db5fb7acc7 100644
> >> --- a/kernel/sched/core.c
> >> +++ b/kernel/sched/core.c
> >> @@ -8588,20 +8588,7 @@ int __sched _cond_resched(void)
> >>  		preempt_schedule_common();
> >>  		return 1;
> >>  	}
> >> -	/*
> >> -	 * In preemptible kernels, ->rcu_read_lock_nesting tells the tick
> >> -	 * whether the current CPU is in an RCU read-side critical section,
> >> -	 * so the tick can report quiescent states even for CPUs looping
> >> -	 * in kernel context.  In contrast, in non-preemptible kernels,
> >> -	 * RCU readers leave no in-memory hints, which means that CPU-bound
> >> -	 * processes executing in kernel context might never report an
> >> -	 * RCU quiescent state.  Therefore, the following code causes
> >> -	 * cond_resched() to report a quiescent state, but only when RCU
> >> -	 * is in urgent need of one.
> >> -	 *      /
> >> -#ifndef CONFIG_PREEMPT_RCU
> >> -	rcu_all_qs();
> >> -#endif
> >
> > But...
> >
> > Suppose we have a long-running loop in the kernel that regularly
> > enables preemption, but only momentarily.  Then the added
> > rcu_flavor_sched_clock_irq() check would almost always fail, making
> > for extremely long grace periods.
> 
> So, my thinking was that if RCU wants to end a grace period, it would
> force a context switch by setting TIF_NEED_RESCHED (and as patch 38 mentions
> RCU always uses the the eager version) causing __schedule() to call
> rcu_note_context_switch().
> That's similar to the preempt_schedule_common() case in the
> _cond_resched() above.

But that requires IPIing that CPU, correct?

> But if I see your point, RCU might just want to register a quiescent
> state and for this long-running loop rcu_flavor_sched_clock_irq() does
> seem to fall down.
> 
> > Or did I miss a change that causes preempt_enable() to help RCU out?
> 
> Something like this?
> 
> diff --git a/include/linux/preempt.h b/include/linux/preempt.h
> index dc5125b9c36b..e50f358f1548 100644
> --- a/include/linux/preempt.h
> +++ b/include/linux/preempt.h
> @@ -222,6 +222,8 @@ do { \
>         barrier(); \
>         if (unlikely(preempt_count_dec_and_test())) \
>                 __preempt_schedule(); \
> +       if (!(preempt_count() & (PREEMPT_MASK | SOFTIRQ_MASK))) \
> +               rcu_all_qs(); \
>  } while (0)

Or maybe something like this to lighten the load a bit:

#define preempt_enable() \
do { \
	barrier(); \
	if (unlikely(preempt_count_dec_and_test())) { \
		__preempt_schedule(); \
		if (raw_cpu_read(rcu_data.rcu_urgent_qs) && \
		    !(preempt_count() & (PREEMPT_MASK | SOFTIRQ_MASK))) \
			rcu_all_qs(); \
	} \
} while (0)

And at that point, we should be able to drop the PREEMPT_MASK, not
that it makes any difference that I am aware of:

#define preempt_enable() \
do { \
	barrier(); \
	if (unlikely(preempt_count_dec_and_test())) { \
		__preempt_schedule(); \
		if (raw_cpu_read(rcu_data.rcu_urgent_qs) && \
		    !(preempt_count() & SOFTIRQ_MASK)) \
			rcu_all_qs(); \
	} \
} while (0)

Except that we can migrate as soon as that preempt_count_dec_and_test()
returns.  And that rcu_all_qs() disables and re-enables preemption,
which will result in undesired recursion.  Sigh.

So maybe something like this:

#define preempt_enable() \
do { \
	if (raw_cpu_read(rcu_data.rcu_urgent_qs) && \
	    !(preempt_count() & SOFTIRQ_MASK)) \
		rcu_all_qs(); \
	barrier(); \
	if (unlikely(preempt_count_dec_and_test())) { \
		__preempt_schedule(); \
	} \
} while (0)

Then rcu_all_qs() becomes something like this:

void rcu_all_qs(void)
{
	unsigned long flags;

	/* Load rcu_urgent_qs before other flags. */
	if (!smp_load_acquire(this_cpu_ptr(&rcu_data.rcu_urgent_qs)))
		return;
	this_cpu_write(rcu_data.rcu_urgent_qs, false);
	if (unlikely(raw_cpu_read(rcu_data.rcu_need_heavy_qs))) {
		local_irq_save(flags);
		rcu_momentary_dyntick_idle();
		local_irq_restore(flags);
	}
	rcu_qs();
}
EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(rcu_all_qs);

> Though I do wonder about the likelihood of hitting the case you describe
> and maybe instead of adding the check on every preempt_enable()
> it might be better to instead force a context switch in the
> rcu_flavor_sched_clock_irq() (as we do in the PREEMPT_RCU=y case.)

Maybe.  But rcu_all_qs() is way lighter weight than a context switch.

							Thanx, Paul