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From: Daniel Phillips <phillips@bonn-fries.net>
To: Bill Huey <billh@tierra.ucsd.edu>, Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Subject: Java and Flam^H^H^H^H AIO (was: aio)
Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 21:42:40 +0100
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On December 23, 2001 06:46 am, Bill Huey wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 21, 2001 at 05:28:36PM +0000, Alan Cox wrote:
> > > Precisely, in fact.  Anyone who can say that Java is going to be
> > > relevant in a few years time, with a straight face, is only kidding
> > > themselves.
> > 
> > Oh it'll be very relevant. Its leaking into all sorts of embedded uses,
> > from Digital TV to smartcards. Its still useless for serious high end 
> > work an likely to stay so.
> > 
> > > Java is not something to justify a new kernel feature, that is for
> > > certain.
> > 
> > There we agree. Things like the current asynch/thread mess in java are
> > partly poor design of language and greatly stupid design of JVM.
> 
> It's not the fault of the JVM runtime nor the the language per se since
> both are excellent. The blame should instead be placed on the political
> process within Sun, which has created a lag in getting a decent IO event
> model/system available in the form of an API.

Hey wait, it can't be so.  Sun apparently uses a boot camp system to 
guarantee that every project finishes on time, every time. 

* daniel ducks and runs

--
Daniel

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