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Wysocki" , Ulf Hansson , kernel@pengutronix.de, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mmc@vger.kernel.org, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org, =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F8ren?= Andersen Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 0/3] introduce priority-based shutdown support Message-ID: <2023112435-dazzler-crisped-04a6@gregkh> References: <20231124145338.3112416-1-o.rempel@pengutronix.de> <2023112403-laxative-lustiness-6a7f@gregkh> <2023112458-stature-commuting-c66f@gregkh> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.9 required=5.0 tests=DKIMWL_WL_HIGH,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on pete.vger.email Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.4 (pete.vger.email [0.0.0.0]); Fri, 24 Nov 2023 07:56:45 -0800 (PST) On Fri, Nov 24, 2023 at 03:49:46PM +0000, Mark Brown wrote: > On Fri, Nov 24, 2023 at 03:27:48PM +0000, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 24, 2023 at 03:21:40PM +0000, Mark Brown wrote: > > > > This came out of some discussions about trying to handle emergency power > > > failure notifications. > > > I'm sorry, but I don't know what that means. Are you saying that the > > kernel is now going to try to provide a hard guarantee that some devices > > are going to be shut down in X number of seconds when asked? If so, why > > not do this in userspace? > > No, it was initially (or when I initially saw it anyway) handling of > notifications from regulators that they're in trouble and we have some > small amount of time to do anything we might want to do about it before > we expire. So we are going to guarantee a "time" in which we are going to do something? Again, if that's required, why not do it in userspace using a RT kernel? thanks, greg k-h