Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932455AbXK2QUn (ORCPT ); Thu, 29 Nov 2007 11:20:43 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1757003AbXK2QUc (ORCPT ); Thu, 29 Nov 2007 11:20:32 -0500 Received: from smtp2.linux-foundation.org ([207.189.120.14]:57709 "EHLO smtp2.linux-foundation.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1758976AbXK2QUa (ORCPT ); Thu, 29 Nov 2007 11:20:30 -0500 Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 08:19:58 -0800 (PST) From: Linus Torvalds To: Jing Xue cc: Al Boldi , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, git@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: git guidance In-Reply-To: <20071129105220.v40i22q4gw4cgoso@intranet.digizenstudio.com> Message-ID: References: <20071129105220.v40i22q4gw4cgoso@intranet.digizenstudio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2002 Lines: 43 On Thu, 29 Nov 2007, Jing Xue wrote: > > By the way, the only SCM I have worked with that tries to mount its > repository (or a view on top of it) as a file system is ClearCase with > its dynamic views. And, between the buggy file system implementation, > the intrusion on workflow, and the lack of scalability, at least in > the organization I worked for, it turned out to be a horrible, > horrible, horrible idea. Doing a read-only mount setup tends to be pretty easy, but it's largely pointless except for specialty uses. Ie it's obviously not useful for actual *development*, but it can be useful for some other cases. For example, a read-only revctrl filesystem can be a _very_ useful thing for test-farms, where you may have hundreds of clients that run tests on possibly different versions at the same time. In situations like that, the read-only mount can actually often be done as a user-space NFS server on some machine. The advantage is that you don't need to export close to infinite amounts of versions from a "real" filesystem, or make the clients have their own copies. And if you do it as a user-space NFS server (or samba, for that matter), it's even portable, unlike many other approaches. The read-only part also makes 99% of all the complexity go away, and it turns out to be a fairly easy exercise to do. So I don't think the filesystem approach is _wrong_ per se. But yes, doing it read-write is almost invariably a big mistake. On operatign systems that support a "union mount" approach, it's likely much better to have a read-only revctl thing, and then over-mount a regular filesystem on top of it. Trying to make it read-write from the revctl engine standpoint is almost certainly totally insane. Linus - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/