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Wysocki" , Ulf Hansson , kernel@pengutronix.de, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mmc@vger.kernel.org, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org, =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F8ren?= Andersen Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 0/3] introduce priority-based shutdown support Message-ID: References: <20231124145338.3112416-1-o.rempel@pengutronix.de> <2023112403-laxative-lustiness-6a7f@gregkh> <2023112458-stature-commuting-c66f@gregkh> <2023112435-dazzler-crisped-04a6@gregkh> <20231124163234.GC819414@pengutronix.de> <2023112453-flagstick-bullring-8511@gregkh> <2023112722-headdress-kissing-8c9f@gregkh> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="GnVq4IS3znoTYk/l" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <2023112722-headdress-kissing-8c9f@gregkh> X-Cookie: Slow day. Practice crawling. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.2 required=5.0 tests=DKIMWL_WL_HIGH,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on morse.vger.email Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.4 (morse.vger.email [0.0.0.0]); Mon, 27 Nov 2023 06:25:23 -0800 (PST) --GnVq4IS3znoTYk/l Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Mon, Nov 27, 2023 at 01:08:24PM +0000, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote: > Yes, using device tree would be good, but now you have created something > that is device-tree-specific and not all the world is device tree :( AFAICT the idiomatic thing for ACPI would be platform quirks based on DMI information. Yay ACPI. If the system is more Linux targetted then you can use _DSD properties to store DT properties, these can then be parsed out in a firmware interface neutral way via the fwnode API. I'm not sure there's any avoiding dealing with firmware interface specifics at some point if we need platform description. > Also, many devices are finally moving out to non-device-tree busses, > like PCI and USB, so how would you handle them in this type of scheme? DT does have bindings for devices on discoverable buses like PCI - I think the original thing was for vendors cheaping out on EEPROMs though it's also useful when things are soldered down in embedded systems. --GnVq4IS3znoTYk/l Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAABCgAdFiEEreZoqmdXGLWf4p/qJNaLcl1Uh9AFAmVkppQACgkQJNaLcl1U h9DzJgf/XZUIgoFfylrAspVzy9yXRhGFCwnuYJ3iQcB6u9nrbRn4Q23KaWhqcE0D jOJpQrRYwe5aO4uKTjd0aVhVrG1CxKduAiFumXEv4cklRha0Q+wL8KNakiP4RCJQ q48wd503qPV3zXpNrzTQiJfoP2um+AhLoy3b+xRAwkc+GH4r6m21KEfPQ55LVo1j 34LrG9W97d/PsfdRyejjSbEl2iXD6Axs1z7/kCixJ4+6mckRgpgnpokNEav3RBoN DNkDOMZG88u8wtjnMiqupqw4SoWrK0LD+OjxITxu5O9PajfAlmzW2OHGsVmw5dBw 7FynB37oyWMtsKfu+RUQz9rtt2McZg== =W9Ia -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --GnVq4IS3znoTYk/l--