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Date:   Mon, 27 Nov 2023 18:27:53 +0000
From:   Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
To:     Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
Cc:     Saeed Mahameed <saeed@kernel.org>, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH V3 2/5] misc: mlx5ctl: Add mlx5ctl misc driver
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On Mon, Nov 27, 2023 at 12:17:32PM -0400, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 27, 2023 at 03:51:10PM +0000, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> 
> > Ok, best of luck with this mess, I'll stop harping on it now and just
> > point out all of the other issues here.  First off, you all need to get
> > the network maintainers to agree that this driver is ok to do this way,
> > and I don't think that has happened yet, so I'll wait on reviewing the
> > series until that is resolved.
> 
> As I said already, I strongly disagree with the idea that the netdev
> maintainers get a global veto on what happens with mlx5 devices just
> because they sometimes have an ethernet port on the back of the card.

I understand you might disagree, however I hold their opinion in high
regard and want to ensure that they agree that exposing device-specific
debugging information for a device that deals with networking is ok to
do so in a device-specific misc device node and not through some other
way that other networking devices normally do (i.e. netlink or
some-other-such-thing.)

Note, device-specific character devices have almost always proven to be
a bad idea in the long run, I understand your immediate need to do
something like this, but remember that keeping it alive for the next 20+
years is going to be tough.

> This module is primarily (but not exclusively) for rdma related
> functionality, not netdev, and the RDMA maintainers Ack it.

In my mind, RDMA implies networking, as it's over a network connection,
but hey, I might be wrong :)

thanks,

greg k-h