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Shutemov" , John Hubbard , David Rientjes , Vlastimil Babka , Hugh Dickins , Kefeng Wang , linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [RESEND PATCH v7 00/10] Small-sized THP for anonymous memory Message-ID: References: <20231122162950.3854897-1-ryan.roberts@arm.com> <9c8f6d2a-7ed8-45d2-9684-d77489bd99b8@redhat.com> <26c361bc-6d87-4a57-9fae-ef635c9039c7@redhat.com> <87sf4rppuc.fsf@nvdebian.thelocal> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87sf4rppuc.fsf@nvdebian.thelocal> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.9 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on morse.vger.email Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.4 (morse.vger.email [0.0.0.0]); Mon, 27 Nov 2023 20:11:06 -0800 (PST) On Mon, Nov 27, 2023 at 07:20:26PM +1100, Alistair Popple wrote: > I don't like "large anon folios" because it seems to confuse collegaues > when explaining that large anon folios are actually smaller than the > existing Hugetlb/THP size. I suspect this is because they already assume > large folios are used for THP. I guess this wouldn't be an issue if > everyone assumed THP was implemented with huge folios, but that doesn't > seem to be the case for me at least. Likely because the default THP size > is often 2MB, which is hardly huge. I find your colleagues confusing. To me, "huge" seems bigger than "large". I don't seem to be the only one: https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-difference-among-big-large-huge-enormous-and-giant (for example) Perhaps the problem is that people have turned "THP" into a thing in its own right. So they feel comfortable talking about small THP, medium THP and large THP and ignoring that there's already a "huge" embedded in THP. Now if you'll excuse me, I have to put my PIN number into the ATM machine.