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[2620:137:e000::3:5]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id fh6-20020a056a00390600b006c4dacc3912si13198310pfb.169.2023.11.28.14.20.41 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Tue, 28 Nov 2023 14:20:41 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 2620:137:e000::3:5 as permitted sender) client-ip=2620:137:e000::3:5; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@walle.cc header.s=mail2022082101 header.b=y9z7I1r8; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 2620:137:e000::3:5 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=QUARANTINE sp=QUARANTINE dis=NONE) header.from=walle.cc Received: from out1.vger.email (depot.vger.email [IPv6:2620:137:e000::3:0]) by groat.vger.email (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97FFE8096FE2; Tue, 28 Nov 2023 14:20:29 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.103.11 at groat.vger.email Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1376516AbjK1WUF (ORCPT + 99 others); Tue, 28 Nov 2023 17:20:05 -0500 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:43678 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1346632AbjK1WUD (ORCPT ); Tue, 28 Nov 2023 17:20:03 -0500 Received: from mail.3ffe.de (0001.3ffe.de [159.69.201.130]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 74B6BD42 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 2023 14:20:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from 3ffe.de (0001.3ffe.de [IPv6:2a01:4f8:c0c:9d57::1]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by mail.3ffe.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C6D4D323; Tue, 28 Nov 2023 23:20:06 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=walle.cc; s=mail2022082101; t=1701210006; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=CAhOARmmFIxR/7vfxpNQzi/gksLmIWRxnp/mV78NkOY=; b=y9z7I1r89PEvv8K1QY9l1riaX3zGYgIH11IFbg6n600hOOTUVRCGBLkWg6ASyeF0Zxnix7 RdJ6lL3qhWn/R/f6d5ZsLjguB8gg8GamTVvfOGUB9F6jAv3qwccpms68k0M9zx4oZE2kFm /D3KdAbdtlrRbQpl0IRWO47jGxnLAZ50QPGWKRbfTjyeSj8UaspqqnB6uLC3NQNa2bxg4n BVzwleYlKT3mjFGTADsL/COYr0nOxs/xDDfOgHP1nQXMFmKSZ9ZlfAk0fhALX8G9FswAHw vQOIZer5vMBr1k30MVkgBBM7FM9y7YzvmNxVEyRHlE1Ai1sIlt8a4XGGqAlVYA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2023 23:20:06 +0100 From: Michael Walle To: Dmitry Baryshkov Cc: Michael Walle , Laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com, andrzej.hajda@intel.com, dave.stevenson@raspberrypi.com, dianders@chromium.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, freedreno@lists.freedesktop.org, jernej.skrabec@gmail.com, jonas@kwiboo.se, konrad.dybcio@linaro.org, linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, marex@denx.de, marijn.suijten@somainline.org, mripard@kernel.org, neil.armstrong@linaro.org, quic_abhinavk@quicinc.com, quic_jesszhan@quicinc.com, rfoss@kernel.org, sean@poorly.run, tzimmermann@suse.de, tony@atomide.com, alexander.stein@ew.tq-group.com Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 03/10] drm/mipi-dsi: add API for manual control over the DSI link power state In-Reply-To: References: <20231127160658.2164612-1-mwalle@kernel.org> <14D9F495-425D-47FA-AD0D-F7299285936F@walle.cc> Message-ID: <5eeade839ad3f71e8976965ce6cf3ed2@walle.cc> X-Sender: michael@walle.cc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.9 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on groat.vger.email Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.4 (groat.vger.email [0.0.0.0]); Tue, 28 Nov 2023 14:20:29 -0800 (PST) [sorry I fat fingered my former reply and converted all CCs to BCCs..] >> >> >> > DSI device lifetime has three different stages: >> >> >> > 1. before the DSI link being powered up and clocking, >> >> >> > 2. when the DSI link is in LP state (for the purpose of this question, >> >> >> > this is the time between the DSI link being powered up and the video >> >> >> > stream start) >> >> >> > 3. when the DSI link is in HS state (while streaming the video). >> >> >> >> >> >> It's not clear to me what (2) is. What is the state of the clock and >> >> >> data lanes? >> >> > >> >> > Clk an Data0 should be in the LP mode, ready for LP Data Transfer. >> >> >> >> Then this is somehow missing >> >> https://docs.kernel.org/gpu/drm-kms-helpers.html#mipi-dsi-bridge-operation >> >> >> >> A DSI host should keep the PHY powered down until the pre_enable >> >> operation >> >> is called. All lanes are in an undefined idle state up to this point, >> >> and >> >> it must not be assumed that it is LP-11. pre_enable should initialise >> >> the >> >> PHY, set the data lanes to LP-11, and the clock lane to either LP-11 >> >> or HS >> >> depending on the mode_flag MIPI_DSI_CLOCK_NON_CONTINUOUS. >> >> >> >> So I don't think these three states are sufficient, see below, that >> >> there >> >> should be at least four. >> > >> >Which one is #4? >> >> enabled clock lane (HS mode), data lanes in LP-11 > > What is the purpose of such a mode? To repeat my first mail: I'm facing similar issues with the tc358775 bridge. This bridge needs to release its reset while both clock and data lanes are in LP-11 mode. But then it needs to be configured (via I2C) while the clock lane is in enabled (HS mode), but the data lanes are still in LP-11 mode. Therefore, for the correct init sequence is: (1) dsi host enables lanes, that is clock and data are in lp-11 (2) dsi bridge driver releases reset of the bridge (3) dsi host enables clock lane, leaves data lanes in lp-11 (4) dsi bridge driver configures the bridge (5) dsi host enables the video stream (6) dsi bridge enables the output port of the bridge -michael >> >> > I don't think we support ULPS currently. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> I'm facing similar issues with the tc358775 bridge. This bridge needs >> >> >> to release its reset while both clock and data lanes are in LP-11 >> >> >> mode. >> >> >> But then it needs to be configured (via I2C) while the clock lane is >> >> >> in enabled (HS mode), but the data lanes are still in LP-11 mode. >> >> >> >> >> >> To me it looks like there is a fouth case then: >> >> >> 1. unpowered >> >> >> 2. DSI clock and data are in LP-11 >> >> >> 3. DSI clock is in HS and data are in LP-11 >> >> >> 4. DSI clock is in HS and data is in HS >> >> >> >> >> >> (And of course the bridge needs continuous clock mode). >> >> >> >> >> >> > Different DSI bridges have different requirements with respect to the >> >> >> > code being executed at stages 1 and 2. For example several DSI-to-eDP >> >> >> > bridges (ps8640, tc358767 require for the link to be quiet during >> >> >> > reset time. >> >> >> > The DSI-controlled bridges and DSI panels need to send some commands >> >> >> > in stage 2, before starting up video >> >> >> > >> >> >> > In the DRM subsystem stage 3 naturally maps to the >> >> >> > drm_bridge_funcs::enable, stage 1 also naturally maps to the >> >> >> > drm_bridge_funcs::pre_enable. Stage 2 doesn't have its own place in >> >> >> > the DRM call chain. >> >> >> > Earlier we attempted to solve that using the pre_enable_prev_first, >> >> >> > which remapped pre-enable callback execution order. However it has led >> >> >> > us to the two issues. First, at the DSI host driver we do not know >> >> >> > whether the panel / bridge were updated to use pre_enable_prev_first >> >> >> > or not. Second, if the bridge has to perform steps during both stages >> >> >> > 1 and 2, it can not do that. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > I'm trying to find a way to express the difference between stages 1 >> >> >> > and 2 in the generic code, so that we do not to worry about particular >> >> >> > DSI host and DSI bridge / panel peculiarities when implementing the >> >> >> > DSI host and/or DSI panel driver. >> >> >> >> >> >> For now, I have a rather hacky ".dsi_lp11_notify" callback in >> >> >> drm_bridge_funcs which is supposed to be called by the DSI host while >> >> >> the >> >> >> clock and data lanes are in LP-11 mode. But that is rather an RFC and >> >> >> me >> >> >> needing something to get the driver for this bridge working. Because >> >> >> it's >> >> >> badly broken. FWIW, you can find my work-in-progress patches at >> >> >> https://github.com/mwalle/linux/tree/feature-tc358775-fixes >> >> >> >> >> >> -michael >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > With best wishes >> >> > Dmitry >> > >> > >> > >>