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[2620:137:e000::3:7]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id lr6-20020a17090b4b8600b002791d79bbf9si1218972pjb.187.2023.11.29.04.16.40 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Wed, 29 Nov 2023 04:16:40 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 2620:137:e000::3:7 as permitted sender) client-ip=2620:137:e000::3:7; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 2620:137:e000::3:7 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org; dmarc=fail (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=arm.com Received: from out1.vger.email (depot.vger.email [IPv6:2620:137:e000::3:0]) by snail.vger.email (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EF1880BE2C1; Wed, 29 Nov 2023 04:16:39 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.103.11 at snail.vger.email Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S232822AbjK2MQ3 (ORCPT + 99 others); Wed, 29 Nov 2023 07:16:29 -0500 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:51254 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S233253AbjK2MQ1 (ORCPT ); Wed, 29 Nov 2023 07:16:27 -0500 Received: from foss.arm.com (foss.arm.com [217.140.110.172]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A82310C3 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2023 04:16:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from usa-sjc-imap-foss1.foss.arm.com (unknown [10.121.207.14]) by usa-sjc-mx-foss1.foss.arm.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2239C2F4; Wed, 29 Nov 2023 04:17:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.178.6] (unknown [172.31.20.19]) by usa-sjc-imap-foss1.foss.arm.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3BFB63F5A1; Wed, 29 Nov 2023 04:16:32 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <764e015b-b987-4722-b088-56da22848644@arm.com> Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2023 13:16:30 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] sched/fair: Use all little CPUs for CPU-bound workload Content-Language: en-US To: Pierre Gondois , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Cc: Qais Yousef , Vincent Guittot , Ingo Molnar , Peter Zijlstra , Juri Lelli , Steven Rostedt , Ben Segall , Mel Gorman , Daniel Bristot de Oliveira , Valentin Schneider References: <20231124153323.3202444-1-pierre.gondois@arm.com> <980a1a52-80a1-4d3b-8931-5f9a6546bbf5@arm.com> From: Dietmar Eggemann In-Reply-To: <980a1a52-80a1-4d3b-8931-5f9a6546bbf5@arm.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED, SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_NONE,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on lindbergh.monkeyblade.net Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.4 (snail.vger.email [0.0.0.0]); Wed, 29 Nov 2023 04:16:39 -0800 (PST) On 29/11/2023 11:48, Pierre Gondois wrote: > > > On 11/29/23 09:55, Dietmar Eggemann wrote: >> On 24/11/2023 16:33, Pierre Gondois wrote: [...] >>> Testing workload ([1]): >>> Spawn 6 CPU-bound tasks. During the first 100ms (step 1), each tasks >>> is affine to a CPU, except for: >>> - one little CPU which is left idle. >>> - one big CPU which has 2 tasks affine. >>> After the 100ms (step 2), remove the cpumask affinity. >>> >>> Before patch: >>> During step 2, the load balancer running from the idle CPU tags sched >>> domains as: >>> - little CPUs: 'group_has_spare'. Indeed, 3 CPU-bound tasks run on a >>>    4 CPUs sched-domain, and the idle CPU provides enough spare >>>    capacity. >> >> What is meant by 'idle CPU provides enough spare capacity? I thought the >> task (util_avg ~ 512_ does not fit on the sched group [1,3-5] when we >> consider util_avg/capacity (383) > > Right, I meant that when evaluating the 'group_type', there is enough spare > capacity when summing the utilization of CPUs in the the MC sched domain: > > --- > group_has_capacity() > { >     [...] >     if ((sgs->group_capacity * 100) > >             (sgs->group_util * imbalance_pct)) >         return true; >     [...] > } I see. But doesn't group_has_capacity() already return true because of `if (sgs->sum_nr_running < sgs->group_weight)` in this case (3 < 4)? Maybe you can make this clearer when sending the v3 with the Reviewed-By tags? > --- > >> >> The calculated imbalance of ~350 is too small for the task-size and >> that's why we need the 'shr_bound(util, env->sd->nr_balance_failed)' to >> let the task load-balance if nr_balance_failed = 2? > > Yes exact, the tasks are too big and cannot fit this imbalance value > (representing the available spare capacity in the little CPUs in this > case). > > 'shr_bound(...)' allows to progressively reduce the size of the tasks and > allow migrations after having tried to balance 'nr_balance_failed' times. [...]