Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752564AbXLCRCS (ORCPT ); Mon, 3 Dec 2007 12:02:18 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751075AbXLCRCK (ORCPT ); Mon, 3 Dec 2007 12:02:10 -0500 Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com ([66.249.92.170]:31573 "EHLO ug-out-1314.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751167AbXLCRCI (ORCPT ); Mon, 3 Dec 2007 12:02:08 -0500 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=PgVdl10aNTdqratctEvZ1kIJtmESV5zhR5JJ/dk04s/qicXMosggaeOOq3x17nigmYcpDq7Q3kIxMlH2dQJlYuxKKhJUorws4ao9eRXRL02jqU7/EA8TtCVReYnwyvJBTCM5ROuxKcQPenrAlKLlU7+eRBDT+opuVKasJxOyy/E= Message-ID: <2c0942db0712030902l16784fa3o43fca831aea2dfcc@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 09:02:05 -0800 From: "Ray Lee" To: "Andi Kleen" Subject: Re: [feature] automatically detect hung TASK_UNINTERRUPTIBLE tasks Cc: "Ingo Molnar" , "Radoslaw Szkodzinski" , "Arjan van de Ven" , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, "Andrew Morton" , "Thomas Gleixner" In-Reply-To: <20071203141739.GC4719@one.firstfloor.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20071203110412.GD28560@one.firstfloor.org> <20071203121357.GB2986@one.firstfloor.org> <20071203122833.GA20232@elte.hu> <20071203124144.GC2986@one.firstfloor.org> <20071203130003.GA26372@elte.hu> <20071203131442.GA4004@one.firstfloor.org> <20071203132955.GA31354@elte.hu> <20071203134801.GB4004@one.firstfloor.org> <20071203135547.GA4245@elte.hu> <20071203141739.GC4719@one.firstfloor.org> X-Google-Sender-Auth: b92c673d10072834 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 762 Lines: 17 On Dec 3, 2007 6:17 AM, Andi Kleen wrote: > That won't address my concerns about already "breaking" (as in > frightening the user etc.) common error handling scenarios by default. Andi, may I respectfully submit that you're not understanding real users here? Real users either: - Never look at their syslog - Or look, and aren't terribly scared by what's in there. Perhaps I'm wrong, and you can point to a message on lkml where someone has posted a backtrace with fear in their voice. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/