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On 10.12.23 08:30, Bagas Sanjaya wrote:
> On 12/10/23 14:15, Linux regression tracking (Thorsten Leemhuis) wrote:
[...]
>> [1] This is why: You just added Ard and Boris to the CC, but did not
>> make it obvious *why* they should care about that mail. They (and all
>> the other recipients) for sure will have no idea what a1b87d54f4e45f
>> exactly is, so you should have mentioned the commit summary. And doing
>> that after a big quote makes it worse, as many people now need to scroll
>> down to see if that mails contains something that might be relevant for
>> them -- and just a waste of time if not.
>>
>> Furthermore, sending the first mail of the thread to all those people
>> and lists was likely not very wise, as nobody is likely to care in a
>> case like this. And not removing all those people and lists in the
>> second mail of the thread make it a lot worse, as it became clear that
>> many people and list do not care about it now that the regression was
>> bisected. Hence it's best to remove them, we all get enough mail already.
>>
>> All that makes people ignore mails from you -- and maybe about
>> regression tracking in general. :-(
> 
> Oops, I didn't greet additional Cc's as you mentioned (that's my
> tendency when handling regressions).

Well, yes, but as mentioned  that is just one of several things that
were slightly off.

> So maybe we continue tracking this on Bugzilla or keeping on ML or
> both?

Not sure what you mean. I'll reply in private, no need to bother the
others with even more mail.

BTW: Ard, I noticed you got involved in the ticket. Thx for that!

Ciao, Thorsten