Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Thu, 27 Dec 2001 20:52:44 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Thu, 27 Dec 2001 20:52:32 -0500 Received: from dsl254-112-233.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net ([216.254.112.233]:1744 "EHLO snark.thyrsus.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Thu, 27 Dec 2001 20:52:24 -0500 Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 20:36:45 -0500 From: "Eric S. Raymond" To: Tom Rini Cc: Dave Jones , Linus Torvalds , Marcelo Tosatti , Linux Kernel Mailing List , kbuild-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [kbuild-devel] Re: State of the new config & build system Message-ID: <20011227203645.A28510@thyrsus.com> Reply-To: esr@thyrsus.com Mail-Followup-To: "Eric S. Raymond" , Tom Rini , Dave Jones , Linus Torvalds , Marcelo Tosatti , Linux Kernel Mailing List , kbuild-devel@lists.sourceforge.net In-Reply-To: <20011227195738.A26889@thyrsus.com> <20011228013654.GK712@cpe-24-221-152-185.az.sprintbbd.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011228013654.GK712@cpe-24-221-152-185.az.sprintbbd.net>; from trini@kernel.crashing.org on Thu, Dec 27, 2001 at 06:36:54PM -0700 Organization: Eric Conspiracy Secret Labs X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Tom Rini : > I think Keith wanted a very small time window tho (~24 hrs, barring big > supprises). But if we're going to be worried about the build time, > kbuild-2.5 and cml2 aren't co-dependant, yes? I know kbuild-2.5 works > w/o cml2, and last I tried (ages ago admitedly) cml2 didn't need > kbuild-2.5. That's right. CML2 and kbuild-2.5 do not require each other > So we could, in theory dump cml1 quickly but leave the old > Makefiles for a bit longer. Or if Keith thinks he can start on the > speed problems soon, just plod along for a few releases. :) As Keith has pointed out, old kbuild achieves its speed by being broken. That's an argument for "plod along", IMHO. -- Eric S. Raymond (Those) who are trying to read the Second Amendment out of the Constitution by claiming it's not an individual right (are) courting disaster by encouraging others to use the same means to eliminate portions of the Constitution they don't like. -- Alan Dershowitz, Harvard Law School - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/