Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753275AbXLHRdX (ORCPT ); Sat, 8 Dec 2007 12:33:23 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751570AbXLHRdO (ORCPT ); Sat, 8 Dec 2007 12:33:14 -0500 Received: from thunk.org ([69.25.196.29]:53118 "EHLO thunker.thunk.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751335AbXLHRdN (ORCPT ); Sat, 8 Dec 2007 12:33:13 -0500 Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2007 12:32:04 -0500 From: Theodore Tso To: Jon Masters Cc: Mike McGrath , Matt Mackall , Alan Cox , Ray Lee , Adrian Bunk , Marc Haber , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Why does reading from /dev/urandom deplete entropy so much? Message-ID: <20071208173204.GI17037@thunk.org> Mail-Followup-To: Theodore Tso , Jon Masters , Mike McGrath , Matt Mackall , Alan Cox , Ray Lee , Adrian Bunk , Marc Haber , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org References: <20071204195021.GB7259@thunk.org> <20071204204036.484f11ac@the-village.bc.nu> <20071204210827.GE19691@waste.org> <4755C423.60907@redhat.com> <20071204221525.GG19691@waste.org> <4755D350.1080801@redhat.com> <20071204223345.GJ19691@waste.org> <4756B50B.3060100@redhat.com> <20071205144934.GL7259@thunk.org> <1197099477.20786.149.camel@perihelion> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1197099477.20786.149.camel@perihelion> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.15+20070412 (2007-04-11) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: tytso@thunk.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on thunker.thunk.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1082 Lines: 21 On Sat, Dec 08, 2007 at 02:37:57AM -0500, Jon Masters wrote: > > BTW, You may be better off using "uuidgen -t" to generate the UUID in > > the smolt RPM, since that will use 12 bits of randomness from > > /dev/random, plus the MAC, address and timestamp. So even if there is > > zero randomness in /dev/random, and the time is January 1, 1970, at > > least the MAC will contribute some uniqueness to the UUID. > > I haven't checked how uuidgen uses the MAC, but I would suggest that > that is not something Fedora should jump at doing - although it would > help ensure unique UUIDs, it also contributes to the tinfoil hat > responses that usually come up with things like smolt. Huh? What's the concern? All you are submitting is a list of hardware devices in your system. That's hardly anything sensitive.... - Ted -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/