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From: Simon Glass <sjg@chromium.org>
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2024 14:54:36 -0700
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 1/3] dt-bindings: mtd: partitions: Add binman compatible
To: Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>
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Hi Rob,

On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 2:09=E2=80=AFPM Simon Glass <sjg@chromium.org> wrot=
e:
>
> Hi Rob,
>
> On Thu, 14 Dec 2023 at 10:27, Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 08, 2023 at 03:58:10PM -0700, Simon Glass wrote:
> > > Hi Rob,
> > >
> > > On Fri, 8 Dec 2023 at 14:56, Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Dec 8, 2023 at 11:47=E2=80=AFAM Simon Glass <sjg@chromium.o=
rg> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Rob,
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, 8 Dec 2023 at 08:00, Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Thu, Nov 16, 2023 at 10:28:50AM -0700, Simon Glass wrote:
> > > > > > > Add a compatible string for binman, so we can extend fixed-pa=
rtitions
> > > > > > > in various ways.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Signed-off-by: Simon Glass <sjg@chromium.org>
> > > > > > > ---
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > (no changes since v5)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Changes in v5:
> > > > > > > - Add #address/size-cells and parternProperties
> > > > > > > - Drop $ref to fixed-partitions.yaml
> > > > > > > - Drop 'select: false'
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Changes in v4:
> > > > > > > - Change subject line
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Changes in v3:
> > > > > > > - Drop fixed-partition additional compatible string
> > > > > > > - Drop fixed-partitions from the example
> > > > > > > - Mention use of compatible instead of label
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Changes in v2:
> > > > > > > - Drop mention of 'enhanced features' in fixed-partitions.yam=
l
> > > > > > > - Mention Binman input and output properties
> > > > > > > - Use plain partition@xxx for the node name
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >  .../bindings/mtd/partitions/binman.yaml       | 68 +++++++++=
++++++++++
> > > > > > >  .../bindings/mtd/partitions/partitions.yaml   |  1 +
> > > > > > >  MAINTAINERS                                   |  5 ++
> > > > > > >  3 files changed, 74 insertions(+)
> > > > > > >  create mode 100644 Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mtd/par=
titions/binman.yaml
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mtd/partitions=
/binman.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mtd/partitions/binman.yaml
> > > > > > > new file mode 100644
> > > > > > > index 000000000000..329217550a98
> > > > > > > --- /dev/null
> > > > > > > +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mtd/partitions/binman=
.yaml
> > > > > > > @@ -0,0 +1,68 @@
> > > > > > > +# SPDX-License-Identifier: (GPL-2.0 OR BSD-2-Clause)
> > > > > > > +# Copyright 2023 Google LLC
> > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > +%YAML 1.2
> > > > > > > +---
> > > > > > > +$id: http://devicetree.org/schemas/mtd/partitions/binman.yam=
l#
> > > > > > > +$schema: http://devicetree.org/meta-schemas/core.yaml#
> > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > +title: Binman firmware layout
> > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > +maintainers:
> > > > > > > +  - Simon Glass <sjg@chromium.org>
> > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > +description: |
> > > > > > > +  The binman node provides a layout for firmware, used when =
packaging firmware
> > > > > > > +  from multiple projects. It is based on fixed-partitions, w=
ith some
> > > > > > > +  extensions, but uses 'compatible' to indicate the contents=
 of the node, to
> > > > > > > +  avoid perturbing or confusing existing installations which=
 use 'label' for a
> > > > > > > +  particular purpose.
> > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > +  Binman supports properties used as inputs to the firmware-=
packaging process,
> > > > > > > +  such as those which control alignment of partitions. This =
binding addresses
> > > > > > > +  these 'input' properties. For example, it is common for th=
e 'reg' property
> > > > > > > +  (an 'output' property) to be set by Binman, based on the a=
lignment requested
> > > > > > > +  in the input.
> > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > +  Once processing is complete, input properties have mostly =
served their
> > > > > > > +  purpose, at least until the firmware is repacked later, e.=
g. due to a
> > > > > > > +  firmware update. The 'fixed-partitions' binding should pro=
vide enough
> > > > > > > +  information to read the firmware at runtime, including dec=
ompression if
> > > > > > > +  needed.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > How is this going to work exactly? binman reads these nodes and=
 then
> > > > > > writes out 'fixed-partitions' nodes. But then you've lost the b=
inman
> > > > > > specifc parts needed for repacking.
> > > > >
> > > > > No, they are the same node. I do want the extra information to st=
ick
> > > > > around. So long as it is compatible with fixed-partition as well,=
 this
> > > > > should work OK.
> > > >
> > > > How can it be both? The partitions node compatible can be either
> > > > 'fixed-partitions' or 'binman'.
> > >
> > > Can we not allow it to be both? I have tried to adjust things in
> > > response to feedback but perhaps the feedback was leading me down the
> > > wrong path?
> >
> > Sure, but then the schema has to and that means extending
> > fixed-partitions.
>
> Can we cross that bridge later? There might be resistance to it. I'm
> not sure. For now, perhaps just a binman compatible works well enough
> to make progress.

Is there any way to make progress on this? I would like to have
software which doesn't understand the binman compatible to at least be
able to understand the fixed-partition compatible. Is that acceptable?
If not, what is?

In any case, please can you help with this?

Regards,
Simon