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[139.178.88.99]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g71-20020a636b4a000000b005cdec4c81e8si498220pgc.514.2024.01.04.18.21.31 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Thu, 04 Jan 2024 18:21:31 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel+bounces-17416-linux.lists.archive=gmail.com@vger.kernel.org designates 139.178.88.99 as permitted sender) client-ip=139.178.88.99; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@lunn.ch header.s=20171124 header.b=UTjKi31i; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel+bounces-17416-linux.lists.archive=gmail.com@vger.kernel.org designates 139.178.88.99 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="linux-kernel+bounces-17416-linux.lists.archive=gmail.com@vger.kernel.org"; dmarc=pass (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=lunn.ch Received: from smtp.subspace.kernel.org (wormhole.subspace.kernel.org [52.25.139.140]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by sv.mirrors.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 91952286E8D for ; Fri, 5 Jan 2024 02:21:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CE4820F7; Fri, 5 Jan 2024 02:21:23 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=lunn.ch header.i=@lunn.ch header.b="UTjKi31i" X-Original-To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Received: from vps0.lunn.ch (vps0.lunn.ch [156.67.10.101]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A396B5384; Fri, 5 Jan 2024 02:21:10 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=lunn.ch Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=lunn.ch DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=lunn.ch; s=20171124; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Disposition:Content-Type:MIME-Version: References:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date:From:Sender:Reply-To:Subject: Date:Message-ID:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:References; bh=T28qKNurpE5uR2LKHk0UONJuynr4RCcgAFPyQKNAhQE=; b=UTjKi31igHkOIAasyWY5ZN/mNZ HrZiEFFYGCNSxQNMDiziip4AKmg24tfJt+96O5x50klvG05/Lw/vPPLooyHRUwHeZ7nG3EVtUwqN7 2jhoqCGWmSVk1hBtRhKxVXufX39BRy8nlmL0WxXX5/+83TbB7YWwMxpY0Se/zubH//sY=; Received: from andrew by vps0.lunn.ch with local (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1rLZpX-004Pid-Md; Fri, 05 Jan 2024 03:21:03 +0100 Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2024 03:21:03 +0100 From: Andrew Lunn To: Jakub Kicinski Cc: Maxime Chevallier , davem@davemloft.net, netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, thomas.petazzoni@bootlin.com, Eric Dumazet , Paolo Abeni , Russell King , linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, Christophe Leroy , Herve Codina , Florian Fainelli , Heiner Kallweit , Vladimir Oltean , =?iso-8859-1?Q?K=F6ry?= Maincent , Jesse Brandeburg , Jonathan Corbet , Marek =?iso-8859-1?Q?Beh=FAn?= , Piergiorgio Beruto , Oleksij Rempel , =?iso-8859-1?Q?Nicol=F2?= Veronese , Simon Horman Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v5 01/13] net: phy: Introduce ethernet link topology representation Message-ID: <6dca7f3c-378a-4b22-848a-da233e4cfbee@lunn.ch> References: <20231221180047.1924733-1-maxime.chevallier@bootlin.com> <20231221180047.1924733-2-maxime.chevallier@bootlin.com> <20240104151242.52fa8cb4@kernel.org> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20240104151242.52fa8cb4@kernel.org> > Complete noob question but I thought PHYs get attached at ndo_open > time for drivers, don't they? Some do. Others get attached during probe. And Copper PHYs inside SFPs get attached when hot-plugged. Andrew