Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S933552AbXLNQqF (ORCPT ); Fri, 14 Dec 2007 11:46:05 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1753699AbXLNQpz (ORCPT ); Fri, 14 Dec 2007 11:45:55 -0500 Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com ([66.249.92.172]:8745 "EHLO ug-out-1314.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753709AbXLNQpz (ORCPT ); Fri, 14 Dec 2007 11:45:55 -0500 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=azSZ5Jbo/k+nFsZqKi9A3FkAQ0k9ADMZQCkaJ7kbqOSg3jXd+6nphLXsfY1MwPZU7h6sMYfpd0l8uNlIbrRHH4fA8+zufBuCSD0xPL9mBW+Tgk8cUhXxnydwY0mSQ2cFdUjO/rCzPXym+0LwcUoiUG1AJsmoNTPH55Q/mBtBoA0= Message-ID: <2c0942db0712140845p1dfd8b23va13525b75224f4c0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 08:45:52 -0800 From: "Ray Lee" To: stefano.brivio@polimi.it, "Linus Torvalds" Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] net: wireless: bcm43xx: big_buffer_sem semaphore to mutex Cc: "John W. Linville" , "Ingo Molnar" , "Daniel Walker" , matthias.kaehlcke@gmail.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mbuesch@freenet.de, linux@bohmer.net, "Michael Buesch" , kjwinchester@gmail.com, jonathan@jonmasters.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org, bcm43xx-dev@lists.berlios.de In-Reply-To: <2c0942db0712140827x38e5d971sbdb3d5864fc32364@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20071213003028.676998182@mvista.com> <200712131445.39770.mb@bu3sch.de> <2c0942db0712131604m41c34da9hf3122b0603f3af96@mail.gmail.com> <200712140143.16451.mb@bu3sch.de> <20071214105624.GC23964@elte.hu> <20071214141446.GA3096@tuxdriver.com> <20071214154022.v5w0eqwwiogws8cw@webmail.polimi.it> <2c0942db0712140827x38e5d971sbdb3d5864fc32364@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: c8632e66dc499c91 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1749 Lines: 36 On Dec 14, 2007 8:27 AM, Ray Lee wrote: > On Dec 14, 2007 6:40 AM, wrote: > > Agreed. As a b43legacy maintainer, I'd be happy to know if Ingo > > suggests other ways to smooth out the transition. I haven't read > > proposals yet. > > This isn't rocket science guys. Put a file in somewhere in your tree > called ReleaseAnnouncement or something, and ask Linus to adjust his > kernel release process to include the contents of `cat $( find . -name > ReleaseAnnouncement )` in the release message he sends out. Clear out > the file after the release. > > Include things such as "bcm43xx is scheduled for removal. build both > b43 and b43legacy as a replacement. Be sure to download the latest > firmware from $URL and follow the instructions there to extract the > correct latest firmware necessary for your chip. There are known > incompatibilities with old udev versions, please ensure blah blah > blah." Or even better, keep the history, and show the diff of the old versus new in the release announcement, with an appropriate sed 's/+/ /' or somesuch. I'm sure you all will figure something out. Regardless, my point is a higher level changelog that is human readable would be helpful. (There are thousands of per-commit changelog entries to read, it's beyond what I have the time to do when testing a new kernel). Also, it seems distributing the release announcement work would be as helpful as distributing the code development work. Ray -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/