Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S935280AbXLQCM4 (ORCPT ); Sun, 16 Dec 2007 21:12:56 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S932390AbXLQCMa (ORCPT ); Sun, 16 Dec 2007 21:12:30 -0500 Received: from taverner.CS.Berkeley.EDU ([128.32.168.222]:56542 "EHLO taverner.cs.berkeley.edu" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1765954AbXLQCM3 (ORCPT ); Sun, 16 Dec 2007 21:12:29 -0500 X-Greylist: delayed 3177 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at vger.kernel.org; Sun, 16 Dec 2007 21:12:28 EST To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Path: not-for-mail From: daw@cs.berkeley.edu (David Wagner) Newsgroups: isaac.lists.linux-kernel Subject: Re: [patch 1/2] [RFC] Simple tamper-proof device filesystem. Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 01:19:30 +0000 (UTC) Organization: University of California, Berkeley Message-ID: References: <47650A4C.4000708@davidnewall.com> <200712162036.JAJ09389.OQOVtOHMFLFSFJ@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp> <476512F1.5010701@davidnewall.com> <200712162103.IEC69233.FFOFOOtJMQHSLV@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp> Reply-To: daw-usenet@taverner.cs.berkeley.edu (David Wagner) NNTP-Posting-Host: taverner.cs.berkeley.edu X-Trace: taverner.cs.berkeley.edu 1197854370 16417 128.32.168.222 (17 Dec 2007 01:19:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@taverner.cs.berkeley.edu NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 01:19:30 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test76 (Apr 2, 2001) Originator: daw@taverner.cs.berkeley.edu (David Wagner) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 789 Lines: 11 Tetsuo Handa writes: >When I attended at Security Stadium 2003 as a defense side, >I was using devfs for /dev directory. The files in /dev directory >were deleted by attckers and the administrator was unable to login. If the attacker gets full administrator-level access on your machine, there are a gazillion ways the attacker can prevent other admins from logging on. This patch can't prevent that. It sounds like this patch is trying to solve a fundamentally unsolveable problem. A useful slogan: "Don't forbid what you cannot prevent." -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/