Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1763569AbXLTXQU (ORCPT ); Thu, 20 Dec 2007 18:16:20 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1753648AbXLTXQF (ORCPT ); Thu, 20 Dec 2007 18:16:05 -0500 Received: from smtp.ono.com ([62.42.230.12]:2955 "EHLO resmaa03.ono.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752158AbXLTXQE convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Thu, 20 Dec 2007 18:16:04 -0500 Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 00:14:48 +0100 From: "J.A. =?UTF-8?B?TWFnYWxsw7Nu?=" To: Alan Cox Cc: Joe Perches , David Miller , apw@shadowen.org, lizf@cn.fujitsu.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org, elendil@planet.nl, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, tglx@linutronix.de, trivial@kernel.org, rdunlap@xenotime.net, jschopp@austin.ibm.com Subject: Re: Trailing periods in kernel messages Message-ID: <20071221001448.31361086@werewolf> In-Reply-To: <20071220220853.4f7c639c@the-village.bc.nu> References: <1196390128.22120.118.camel@localhost> <20071220162923.GB27885@shadowen.org> <20071220210741.6dc3caf5@the-village.bc.nu> <20071220.135133.262055434.davem@davemloft.net> <1198188468.6183.80.camel@localhost> <20071220220853.4f7c639c@the-village.bc.nu> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.2.0cvs10 (GTK+ 2.12.3; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2314 Lines: 53 On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 22:08:53 +0000, Alan Cox wrote: > > I believe though that printk messages are not sentences but are > > logging statements. Statements do not require full-stops. > > > > Opinions, of course, vary. > > I do not believe "opinions" are relevant here. Relevant would be cites > from respected style guides (Fowlers, Oxford Guide To Style et al.) to > show they do not need a full stop. > All those fine references you cite are sure written for read literate (literacy?) texts. Punctuation is something that is needed in (just forgive me 'cause I'm trying to think this in english, but spanish is my native language...) continous written text that needs some kind of symbol to show there is a pause half in a sentence (a comma), or that two statements are separate sentences and need to be declaimed specially. Nobody (someone?) has written a guide to declaim computer messages or source code. If you get so picky, this message [kajasldkjasl] Kernel OOPS: sdsdsdsdsd shoud read: At [kajasldkjasl], the kernel has tried to deliver an operation that resulted in an inconsistent state, so system operation has been stopped... >From my point of view: - Kernel messages are not read at loud... - If you are so worried about extra chars/mem usage in other areas, the dot at the end of a kernel message is just trash. - If some kernel message has two sentences, better to format them in two lines (ie, sed -e :.:\n:g:) If some kernel message needs grammatical corrections, it is not a kernel message, it was someone very bored when he wrote the code. The kernel messages are _not_ sentences, they are kernel messages. If not, you have a harder work assuring they all have a subject and a predicate than worrying about dots at the end... -- J.A. Magallon \ Software is like sex: \ It's better when it's free Mandriva Linux release 2008.1 (Cooker) for i586 Linux 2.6.23-jam05 (gcc 4.2.2 20071128 (4.2.2-2mdv2008.1)) SMP PREEMPT -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/