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Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 16:19:15 -0800 (PST)
From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
To: Timothy Covell <timothy.covell@ashavan.org>
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Subject: Re: [patch] Re: Framebuffer...Why oh Why???
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On Sun, 30 Dec 2001, Timothy Covell wrote:
>
> 	When X11 locks up, I can still kill it and my box lives.  When
> framebuffers crash, their is no recovery save rebooting.  Back in 1995
> I thought that linux VTs and X11 implemenation blew Solaris out of the
> water, and now we want throw away our progress?  I'm still astounded
> by the whole "oooh I can see  a penquin while I boot-up" thing?
> Granted, frame buffers have usage in embedded systems, but do they
> really have to be so deeply integrated??

They aren't.

No sane person should use frame buffers if they have the choice.

Like your mama told you: "Just say no". Use text-mode and X11, and be
happy.

Some people don't have the choice, of course.

		Linus

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