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Peter Anvin" , linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, x86@kernel.org, linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org References: <20240202080756.1453939-1-ryan.roberts@arm.com> <20240202080756.1453939-20-ryan.roberts@arm.com> <64395ae4-3a7d-45dd-8f1d-ea6b232829c5@arm.com> <41499621-482f-455b-9f68-b43ea8052557@redhat.com> <1d302d7a-50ab-4ab4-b049-75ed4a71a87d@arm.com> <99e2a92c-f2a2-4e1e-8ce2-08caae2cb7e4@redhat.com> From: David Hildenbrand Autocrypt: addr=david@redhat.com; keydata= xsFNBFXLn5EBEAC+zYvAFJxCBY9Tr1xZgcESmxVNI/0ffzE/ZQOiHJl6mGkmA1R7/uUpiCjJ dBrn+lhhOYjjNefFQou6478faXE6o2AhmebqT4KiQoUQFV4R7y1KMEKoSyy8hQaK1umALTdL QZLQMzNE74ap+GDK0wnacPQFpcG1AE9RMq3aeErY5tujekBS32jfC/7AnH7I0v1v1TbbK3Gp XNeiN4QroO+5qaSr0ID2sz5jtBLRb15RMre27E1ImpaIv2Jw8NJgW0k/D1RyKCwaTsgRdwuK Kx/Y91XuSBdz0uOyU/S8kM1+ag0wvsGlpBVxRR/xw/E8M7TEwuCZQArqqTCmkG6HGcXFT0V9 PXFNNgV5jXMQRwU0O/ztJIQqsE5LsUomE//bLwzj9IVsaQpKDqW6TAPjcdBDPLHvriq7kGjt WhVhdl0qEYB8lkBEU7V2Yb+SYhmhpDrti9Fq1EsmhiHSkxJcGREoMK/63r9WLZYI3+4W2rAc UucZa4OT27U5ZISjNg3Ev0rxU5UH2/pT4wJCfxwocmqaRr6UYmrtZmND89X0KigoFD/XSeVv jwBRNjPAubK9/k5NoRrYqztM9W6sJqrH8+UWZ1Idd/DdmogJh0gNC0+N42Za9yBRURfIdKSb B3JfpUqcWwE7vUaYrHG1nw54pLUoPG6sAA7Mehl3nd4pZUALHwARAQABzSREYXZpZCBIaWxk ZW5icmFuZCA8ZGF2aWRAcmVkaGF0LmNvbT7CwZgEEwEIAEICGwMGCwkIBwMCBhUIAgkKCwQW AgMBAh4BAheAAhkBFiEEG9nKrXNcTDpGDfzKTd4Q9wD/g1oFAl8Ox4kFCRKpKXgACgkQTd4Q 9wD/g1oHcA//a6Tj7SBNjFNM1iNhWUo1lxAja0lpSodSnB2g4FCZ4R61SBR4l/psBL73xktp rDHrx4aSpwkRP6Epu6mLvhlfjmkRG4OynJ5HG1gfv7RJJfnUdUM1z5kdS8JBrOhMJS2c/gPf wv1TGRq2XdMPnfY2o0CxRqpcLkx4vBODvJGl2mQyJF/gPepdDfcT8/PY9BJ7FL6Hrq1gnAo4 3Iv9qV0JiT2wmZciNyYQhmA1V6dyTRiQ4YAc31zOo2IM+xisPzeSHgw3ONY/XhYvfZ9r7W1l pNQdc2G+o4Di9NPFHQQhDw3YTRR1opJaTlRDzxYxzU6ZnUUBghxt9cwUWTpfCktkMZiPSDGd KgQBjnweV2jw9UOTxjb4LXqDjmSNkjDdQUOU69jGMUXgihvo4zhYcMX8F5gWdRtMR7DzW/YE BgVcyxNkMIXoY1aYj6npHYiNQesQlqjU6azjbH70/SXKM5tNRplgW8TNprMDuntdvV9wNkFs 9TyM02V5aWxFfI42+aivc4KEw69SE9KXwC7FSf5wXzuTot97N9Phj/Z3+jx443jo2NR34XgF 89cct7wJMjOF7bBefo0fPPZQuIma0Zym71cP61OP/i11ahNye6HGKfxGCOcs5wW9kRQEk8P9 M/k2wt3mt/fCQnuP/mWutNPt95w9wSsUyATLmtNrwccz63XOwU0EVcufkQEQAOfX3n0g0fZz Bgm/S2zF/kxQKCEKP8ID+Vz8sy2GpDvveBq4H2Y34XWsT1zLJdvqPI4af4ZSMxuerWjXbVWb T6d4odQIG0fKx4F8NccDqbgHeZRNajXeeJ3R7gAzvWvQNLz4piHrO/B4tf8svmRBL0ZB5P5A 2uhdwLU3NZuK22zpNn4is87BPWF8HhY0L5fafgDMOqnf4guJVJPYNPhUFzXUbPqOKOkL8ojk CXxkOFHAbjstSK5Ca3fKquY3rdX3DNo+EL7FvAiw1mUtS+5GeYE+RMnDCsVFm/C7kY8c2d0G NWkB9pJM5+mnIoFNxy7YBcldYATVeOHoY4LyaUWNnAvFYWp08dHWfZo9WCiJMuTfgtH9tc75 7QanMVdPt6fDK8UUXIBLQ2TWr/sQKE9xtFuEmoQGlE1l6bGaDnnMLcYu+Asp3kDT0w4zYGsx 5r6XQVRH4+5N6eHZiaeYtFOujp5n+pjBaQK7wUUjDilPQ5QMzIuCL4YjVoylWiBNknvQWBXS lQCWmavOT9sttGQXdPCC5ynI+1ymZC1ORZKANLnRAb0NH/UCzcsstw2TAkFnMEbo9Zu9w7Kv AxBQXWeXhJI9XQssfrf4Gusdqx8nPEpfOqCtbbwJMATbHyqLt7/oz/5deGuwxgb65pWIzufa N7eop7uh+6bezi+rugUI+w6DABEBAAHCwXwEGAEIACYCGwwWIQQb2cqtc1xMOkYN/MpN3hD3 AP+DWgUCXw7HsgUJEqkpoQAKCRBN3hD3AP+DWrrpD/4qS3dyVRxDcDHIlmguXjC1Q5tZTwNB boaBTPHSy/Nksu0eY7x6HfQJ3xajVH32Ms6t1trDQmPx2iP5+7iDsb7OKAb5eOS8h+BEBDeq 3ecsQDv0fFJOA9ag5O3LLNk+3x3q7e0uo06XMaY7UHS341ozXUUI7wC7iKfoUTv03iO9El5f XpNMx/YrIMduZ2+nd9Di7o5+KIwlb2mAB9sTNHdMrXesX8eBL6T9b+MZJk+mZuPxKNVfEQMQ a5SxUEADIPQTPNvBewdeI80yeOCrN+Zzwy/Mrx9EPeu59Y5vSJOx/z6OUImD/GhX7Xvkt3kq Er5KTrJz3++B6SH9pum9PuoE/k+nntJkNMmQpR4MCBaV/J9gIOPGodDKnjdng+mXliF3Ptu6 3oxc2RCyGzTlxyMwuc2U5Q7KtUNTdDe8T0uE+9b8BLMVQDDfJjqY0VVqSUwImzTDLX9S4g/8 kC4HRcclk8hpyhY2jKGluZO0awwTIMgVEzmTyBphDg/Gx7dZU1Xf8HFuE+UZ5UDHDTnwgv7E th6RC9+WrhDNspZ9fJjKWRbveQgUFCpe1sa77LAw+XFrKmBHXp9ZVIe90RMe2tRL06BGiRZr jPrnvUsUUsjRoRNJjKKA/REq+sAnhkNPPZ/NNMjaZ5b8Tovi8C0tmxiCHaQYqj7G2rgnT0kt WNyWQQ== Organization: Red Hat In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 13.02.24 14:20, Ryan Roberts wrote: > On 13/02/2024 13:13, David Hildenbrand wrote: >> On 13.02.24 14:06, Ryan Roberts wrote: >>> On 13/02/2024 12:19, David Hildenbrand wrote: >>>> On 13.02.24 13:06, Ryan Roberts wrote: >>>>> On 12/02/2024 20:38, Ryan Roberts wrote: >>>>>> [...] >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> +static inline bool mm_is_user(struct mm_struct *mm) >>>>>>>>>> +{ >>>>>>>>>> +    /* >>>>>>>>>> +     * Don't attempt to apply the contig bit to kernel mappings, because >>>>>>>>>> +     * dynamically adding/removing the contig bit can cause page faults. >>>>>>>>>> +     * These racing faults are ok for user space, since they get >>>>>>>>>> serialized >>>>>>>>>> +     * on the PTL. But kernel mappings can't tolerate faults. >>>>>>>>>> +     */ >>>>>>>>>> +    return mm != &init_mm; >>>>>>>>>> +} >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> We also have the efi_mm as a non-user mm, though I don't think we >>>>>>>>> manipulate >>>>>>>>> that while it is live, and I'm not sure if that needs any special handling. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Well we never need this function in the hot (order-0 folio) path, so I >>>>>>>> think I >>>>>>>> could add a check for efi_mm here with performance implication. It's >>>>>>>> probably >>>>>>>> safest to explicitly exclude it? What do you think? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Oops: This should have read "I think I could add a check for efi_mm here >>>>>>> *without* performance implication" >>>>>> >>>>>> It turns out that efi_mm is only defined when CONFIG_EFI is enabled. I can do >>>>>> this: >>>>>> >>>>>> return mm != &init_mm && (!IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_EFI) || mm != &efi_mm); >>>>>> >>>>>> Is that acceptable? This is my preference, but nothing else outside of efi >>>>>> references this symbol currently. >>>>>> >>>>>> Or perhaps I can convince myself that its safe to treat efi_mm like userspace. >>>>>> There are a couple of things that need to be garanteed for it to be safe: >>>>>> >>>>>>     - The PFNs of present ptes either need to have an associated struct >>>>>> page or >>>>>>       need to have the PTE_SPECIAL bit set (either pte_mkspecial() or >>>>>>       pte_mkdevmap()) >>>>>> >>>>>>     - Live mappings must either be static (no changes that could cause >>>>>> fold/unfold >>>>>>       while live) or the system must be able to tolerate a temporary fault >>>>>> >>>>>> Mark suggests efi_mm is not manipulated while live, so that meets the latter >>>>>> requirement, but I'm not sure about the former? >>>>> >>>>> I've gone through all the efi code, and conclude that, as Mark suggests, the >>>>> mappings are indeed static. And additionally, the ptes are populated using only >>>>> the _private_ ptep API, so there is no issue here. As just discussed with Mark, >>>>> my prefereence is to not make any changes to code, and just add a comment >>>>> describing why efi_mm is safe. >>>>> >>>>> Details: >>>>> >>>>> * Registered with ptdump >>>>>       * ptep_get_lockless() >>>>> * efi_create_mapping -> create_pgd_mapping … -> init_pte: >>>>>       * __ptep_get() >>>>>       * __set_pte() >>>>> * efi_memattr_apply_permissions -> efi_set_mapping_permissions … -> >>>>> set_permissions >>>>>       * __ptep_get() >>>>>       * __set_pte() >>>> >>>> Sound good. We could add some VM_WARN_ON if we ever get the efi_mm via the >>>> "official" APIs. >>> >>> We could, but that would lead to the same linkage issue, which I'm trying to >>> avoid in the first place: >>> >>> VM_WARN_ON(IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_EFI) && mm == efi_mm); >>> >>> This creates new source code dependencies, which I would rather avoid if >>> possible. >> >> Just a thought, you could have a is_efi_mm() function that abstracts all that. >> >> diff --git a/include/linux/efi.h b/include/linux/efi.h >> index c74f47711f0b..152f5fa66a2a 100644 >> --- a/include/linux/efi.h >> +++ b/include/linux/efi.h >> @@ -692,6 +692,15 @@ extern struct efi { >> >>  extern struct mm_struct efi_mm; >> >> +static inline void is_efi_mm(struct mm_struct *mm) >> +{ >> +#ifdef CONFIG_EFI >> +       return mm == &efi_mm; >> +#else >> +       return false; >> +#endif >> +} >> + >>  static inline int >>  efi_guidcmp (efi_guid_t left, efi_guid_t right) >>  { >> >> > > That would definitely work, but in that case, I might as well just check for it > in mm_is_user() (and personally I would change the name to mm_is_efi()): > > > static inline bool mm_is_user(struct mm_struct *mm) > { > return mm != &init_mm && !mm_is_efi(mm); > } > > Any objections? > Nope :) Maybe slap in an "unlikely()", because efi_mm *is* unlikely to show up. -- Cheers, David / dhildenb