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Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2024 11:17:20 -0500
From: Kent Overstreet <kent.overstreet@linux.dev>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 00/35] Memory allocation profiling
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On Wed, Feb 14, 2024 at 05:02:28PM +0100, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Wed 14-02-24 10:01:14, Kent Overstreet wrote:
> > On Wed, Feb 14, 2024 at 03:46:33PM +0100, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > > On Wed 14-02-24 01:20:20, Johannes Weiner wrote:
> > > [...]
> > > > I agree we should discuss how the annotations are implemented on a
> > > > technical basis, but my take is that we need something like this.
> > > 
> > > I do not think there is any disagreement on usefulness of a better
> > > memory allocation tracking. At least for me the primary problem is the
> > > implementation. At LFSMM last year we have heard that existing tracing
> > > infrastructure hasn't really been explored much. Cover letter doesn't
> > > really talk much about those alternatives so it is really hard to
> > > evaluate whether the proposed solution is indeed our best way to
> > > approach this.
> > 
> > Michal, we covered this before.
> 
> It is a good practice to summarize previous discussions in the cover
> letter. Especially when there are different approaches discussed over a
> longer time period or when the topic is controversial.
> 
> I do not see anything like that here. Neither for the existing tracing
> infrastructure, page owner nor performance concerns discussed before
> etc. Look, I do not want to nit pick or insist on formalisms but having
> those data points layed out would make any further discussion much more
> smooth.

You don't want to nitpick???

Look, you've been consistently sidestepping the technical discussion; it
seems all you want to talk about is process or "your nack".

If we're going to have a technical discussion, it's incumbent upon all
of us to /keep the focus on the technical/; that is everyone's
responsibility.

I'm not going to write a 20 page cover letter and recap every dead end
that was proposed. That would be a lot of useless crap for eveyone to
wade through. I'm going to summarize the important stuff, and keep the
focus on what we're doing and documenting it. If you want to take part
in a discussion, it's your responsibility to be reading with
comprehension and finding useful things to say.

You gotta stop with this this derailing garbage.