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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2024 13:56:18 +0100
From: Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@kernel.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v12 08/15] media: uapi: Define audio sample format
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Em Mon, 19 Feb 2024 12:05:02 +0800
Shengjiu Wang <shengjiu.wang@gmail.com> escreveu:

> Hi Mauro
>=20
> On Sat, Feb 17, 2024 at 5:19=E2=80=AFPM Mauro Carvalho Chehab
> <mchehab@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > Em Thu, 18 Jan 2024 20:32:01 +0800
> > Shengjiu Wang <shengjiu.wang@nxp.com> escreveu:
> > =20
> > > The audio sample format definition is from alsa,
> > > the header file is include/uapi/sound/asound.h, but
> > > don't include this header file directly, because in
> > > user space, there is another copy in alsa-lib.
> > > There will be conflict in userspace for include
> > > videodev2.h & asound.h and asoundlib.h
> > >
> > > Here still use the fourcc format.
> > >
> > > Signed-off-by: Shengjiu Wang <shengjiu.wang@nxp.com>
> > > ---
> > >  .../userspace-api/media/v4l/pixfmt-audio.rst  | 87 +++++++++++++++++=
++
> > >  .../userspace-api/media/v4l/pixfmt.rst        |  1 +
> > >  drivers/media/v4l2-core/v4l2-ioctl.c          | 13 +++
> > >  include/uapi/linux/videodev2.h                | 23 +++++
> > >  4 files changed, 124 insertions(+)
> > >  create mode 100644 Documentation/userspace-api/media/v4l/pixfmt-audi=
o.rst
> > >
> > > diff --git a/Documentation/userspace-api/media/v4l/pixfmt-audio.rst b=
/Documentation/userspace-api/media/v4l/pixfmt-audio.rst
> > > new file mode 100644
> > > index 000000000000..04b4a7fbd8f4
> > > --- /dev/null
> > > +++ b/Documentation/userspace-api/media/v4l/pixfmt-audio.rst
> > > @@ -0,0 +1,87 @@
> > > +.. SPDX-License-Identifier: GFDL-1.1-no-invariants-or-later
> > > +
> > > +.. _pixfmt-audio:
> > > +
> > > +*************
> > > +Audio Formats
> > > +*************
> > > +
> > > +These formats are used for :ref:`audiomem2mem` interface only.
> > > +
> > > +.. tabularcolumns:: |p{5.8cm}|p{1.2cm}|p{10.3cm}|
> > > +
> > > +.. cssclass:: longtable
> > > +
> > > +.. flat-table:: Audio Format
> > > +    :header-rows:  1
> > > +    :stub-columns: 0
> > > +    :widths:       3 1 4
> > > +
> > > +    * - Identifier
> > > +      - Code
> > > +      - Details
> > > +    * .. _V4L2-AUDIO-FMT-S8:
> > > +
> > > +      - ``V4L2_AUDIO_FMT_S8``
> > > +      - 'S8'
> > > +      - Corresponds to SNDRV_PCM_FORMAT_S8 in ALSA
> > > +    * .. _V4L2-AUDIO-FMT-S16-LE: =20
> >
> > Hmm... why can't we just use SNDRV_*_FORMAT_*? Those are already part of
> > an uAPI header. No need to add any abstraction here and/or redefine
> > what is there already at include/uapi/sound/asound.h.
> > =20
> Actually I try to avoid including the include/uapi/sound/asound.h.
> Because in user space, there is another copy in alsa-lib (asoundlib.h).
> There will be conflict in userspace when including videodev2.h and
> asoundlib.h.

Well, alsasoundlib.h seems to be using the same definitions:
	https://github.com/michaelwu/alsa-lib/blob/master/include/pcm.h

So, I can't see what would be the actual issue, as both userspace library
and ALSA internal headers use the same magic numbers.

You can still do things like:

	#ifdef __KERNEL__
	#  include <sound/asound.h>
	#else
	#  include <asoundlib.h>
	#endif

To avoid such kind of conflicts, if you need to have it included on
some header file. Yet, I can't see why you would need that.

IMO, at uAPI headers, you just need to declare the uAPI audiofmt field
to be either __u32 or __u64, pointing it to where this value comes from
(on both userspace and Kernelspace. E. g.:

/**
 * struct v4l2_audio_format - audio data format definition
 * @audioformat:
 *	an integer number matching the fields inside
 *	enum snd_pcm_format_t (e. g. `SNDRV_PCM_FORMAT_*`), as defined
 *	in include/uapi/sound/asound.h and
 *      https://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/alsa-lib/group___p_c_m.html#g=
aa14b7f26877a812acbb39811364177f8.
 * @channels:		channel numbers
 * @buffersize:		maximum size in bytes required for data
 */
struct v4l2_audio_format {
	__u32				audioformat;
	__u32				channels;
	__u32				buffersize;
} __attribute__ ((packed));

Then, at documentation you just need to point to where the
possible values for SNDRV_PCM_FORMAT_ are defined. No need to
document them one by one.

With such definition, you'll only need to include sound/asound.h
within the kAPI scope.

>=20
> And in the V4l framework, the fourcc type is commonly used in other
> cases (video, radio, touch, meta....), to avoid changing common code
> a lot, so I think using fourcc definition for audio may be simpler.

Those are real video streams (or a video-related streams, in the case
of metadata) where fourcc is widely used. There, it makes sense.
However, ALSA format definitions are already being used for a long time.
There's no sense on trying to reinvent it - or having an abstract layer
to convert from/to fourcc <=3D=3D> enum snd_pcm_format_t. Just use what is
there already.

Thanks,
Mauro