Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Mon, 31 Dec 2001 20:32:47 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Mon, 31 Dec 2001 20:32:38 -0500 Received: from chac.inf.utfsm.cl ([200.1.19.54]:20486 "EHLO chac.inf.utfsm.cl") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Mon, 31 Dec 2001 20:32:27 -0500 Message-Id: <200201010132.g011W5TS001771@sleipnir.valparaiso.cl> To: Larry McVoy cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: The direction linux is taking In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 29 Dec 2001 15:14:40 -0800." <20011229151440.A21760@work.bitmover.com> X-mailer: MH [Version 6.8.4] X-charset: ISO_8859-1 Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 22:32:05 -0300 From: Horst von Brand Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Larry McVoy said: [...] > We have lots of commercial customers using BK on the Linux kernel, they > are doing embedded this and that. The rate of change that they make is > much greater than the rate of change made in the Linus maintained tree. > I'm not saying it's good or bad, it's just different. I can say that > merging is a huge issue in commercial shops. It's interesting to hear > that it is not in Linux. Hummm... I guess this is because yoiu see new (development, pre, ...) kernels each few days. Alan said he gets mosly line shifts (== non-overlapping patches, or "people should be talking to each other"). Maybe due to the rapid version turnover? Maybe most of the merging is being done by the posters themselves during development, as Ye Kernel Gods refuse to do it for them? I'm surprised that commercial shops see much merging. I'd assume they have direct access to the up-to-the-minute source, so _less_ merging should be necesary. Or they are (over)confident in their tools, and just work on stale sources? > Some sociology guy with a CS background should do a study on this and > explore the differences. Is fast change better? Is slow change better? I think the difference lies elsewhere. -- Horst von Brand vonbrand@sleipnir.valparaiso.cl Casilla 9G, Vin~a del Mar, Chile +56 32 672616 - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/