Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752702AbXLaSVx (ORCPT ); Mon, 31 Dec 2007 13:21:53 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1752116AbXLaSVn (ORCPT ); Mon, 31 Dec 2007 13:21:43 -0500 Received: from idcmail-mo1so.shaw.ca ([24.71.223.10]:54742 "EHLO pd3mo3so.prod.shaw.ca" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752321AbXLaSVm (ORCPT ); Mon, 31 Dec 2007 13:21:42 -0500 Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 12:21:12 -0600 From: Robert Hancock Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86: provide a DMI based port 0x80 I/O delay override In-reply-to: To: Alan Cox Cc: Pavel Machek , Linus Torvalds , Rene Herman , Ingo Molnar , dpreed@reed.com, Islam Amer , hpa@zytor.com, Ingo Molnar , Andi Kleen , Thomas Gleixner , Linux Kernel Message-id: <47793318.3090803@shaw.ca> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit References: User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1241 Lines: 28 Alan Cox wrote: >> "You plug in PCI DEBUG card and it overclocks your machine" is bad >> scenario.. (I don't know if it does... can PCI card emulate ISA timings?) > > Easily. Its a bit more restricted by later spec revisions but it can halt > your box of a week or two if it wants. Video cards used to pull this > stunt for marketing benchmark numbers. The drivers, specifically (the old "don't check if the command FIFO is full before writing, just write anyway and if it's full let the whole PCI bus stall while the FIFO empties out" trick). I rather doubt any of those PCI POST debug cards would bother to accurately emulate the ISA timings of normal port 0x80 accesses, however. Most likely if you plug those in, port 0x80 accesses suddenly become lots faster now that the writes are completing on the PCI bus before ever hitting ISA/LPC.. -- Robert Hancock Saskatoon, SK, Canada To email, remove "nospam" from hancockr@nospamshaw.ca Home Page: http://www.roberthancock.com/ -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/