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charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Feb 25, 2024 at 3:07=E2=80=AFAM SeongJae Park wrote= : > > Hi Barry, > > On Sat, 24 Feb 2024 12:37:59 +0800 Barry Song <21cnbao@gmail.com> wrote: > > [...] > > > > BTW=EF=BC=8C > > Hi SeongJae, > > I am not quite sure if damon also needs this, so I have kept damon as i= s by > > setting ignore_references =3D false. MADV_PAGEOUT is an explicit hint = users > > don't want the memory to be reclaimed, I don't know if it is true for d= amon as > > well. If you have some comments, please chime in. > > Thank you for calling my name :) > > For DAMON's usecase, the document simply says the behavior would be same = to > MADV_PAGEOUT, so if we conclude to change MADV_PAGEOUT, I think same chan= ge > should be made for DAMON's usecase, or update DAMON document. Hi SeongJae, I don't find similar clearing pte young in damon_pa_pageout(), so i guess damon's behaviour is actually different with MADV_PAGEOUT which has pte-clearing. = damon is probably the best-effort but MADV_PAGEOUT isn't . static unsigned long damon_pa_pageout(struct damon_region *r, struct damos = *s) { unsigned long addr, applied; LIST_HEAD(folio_list); for (addr =3D r->ar.start; addr < r->ar.end; addr +=3D PAGE_SIZE) { struct folio *folio =3D damon_get_folio(PHYS_PFN(addr)= ); .... if (damos_pa_filter_out(s, folio)) goto put_folio; folio_clear_referenced(folio); folio_test_clear_young(folio); if (!folio_isolate_lru(folio)) goto put_folio; if (folio_test_unevictable(folio)) folio_putback_lru(folio); else list_add(&folio->lru, &folio_list); put_folio: folio_put(folio); } applied =3D reclaim_pages(&folio_list); cond_resched(); return applied * PAGE_SIZE; } am i missing something? > > > Thanks, > SJ > Thanks Barry