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[2604:1380:4601:e00::3]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id dx10-20020a170906a84a00b00a3f1a6b346csi751035ejb.311.2024.02.24.12.12.31 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Sat, 24 Feb 2024 12:12:31 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel+bounces-79828-linux.lists.archive=gmail.com@vger.kernel.org designates 2604:1380:4601:e00::3 as permitted sender) client-ip=2604:1380:4601:e00::3; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@kernel.org header.s=k20201202 header.b=KBr4HgWU; arc=pass (i=1 dkim=pass dkdomain=kernel.org); spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel+bounces-79828-linux.lists.archive=gmail.com@vger.kernel.org designates 2604:1380:4601:e00::3 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="linux-kernel+bounces-79828-linux.lists.archive=gmail.com@vger.kernel.org"; dmarc=pass (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=kernel.org Received: from smtp.subspace.kernel.org (wormhole.subspace.kernel.org [52.25.139.140]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by am.mirrors.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 107DC1F223A6 for ; Sat, 24 Feb 2024 20:12:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C11F74CE04; Sat, 24 Feb 2024 20:12:24 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b="KBr4HgWU" Received: from smtp.kernel.org (aws-us-west-2-korg-mail-1.web.codeaurora.org [10.30.226.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E27D44879B; Sat, 24 Feb 2024 20:12:23 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1708805544; cv=none; b=OmM39PEtnYDCNoO8AZZC86xn/L1NIzHupur4ymEtSE6rpaKdz+ViM2GSiyNKZhhakGt4a6tfibNqV3+ZGzIrdg9cxzYntgYH3cHo7xAm7I1httbzYrvG18IGzlneJPo1VpD4XtTRqfklmANYdXmm/7LUYws8xbZbh6vMQcUT0VY= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1708805544; c=relaxed/simple; bh=WDOLZasr/fMaFo5Uetg09r0Mt7rM6tIyzGnsV6eeaQs=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References: MIME-Version; b=DUt+7n5HjJ1kH2wOSoEqKdXLq5TVQw8Bnfv/+3zMWqJkg5RXg6Mea2Zgy2Zeyv8btFA28HuK1lp77Vfpp4nXTPA9GPULh/2upe1UutTWmF3uEOhKe/fcvfwqr9S8ca3s4NzXko1MeNgLJiVQldGpMcv75e7WJ+llEl6B1lL7t0U= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b=KBr4HgWU; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A1DA0C433C7; Sat, 24 Feb 2024 20:12:22 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=k20201202; t=1708805543; bh=WDOLZasr/fMaFo5Uetg09r0Mt7rM6tIyzGnsV6eeaQs=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=KBr4HgWUK5fXSfNw6venvBGXohAKoc8LP0ELTHOnh2t2A1v0aVzXGmhqGPmKmSGxU 3X+vbPq+le9YnIt8JrqSNAdITRudd6SbOV0S/U3LvsGt814GQS0uf5ENINVlQWjErZ bGS+qLwIiKC3UcvD7TD7EUmJlj6WGDVuTUD/BX3s8Fo5SmRdhUY2PioiuKpyjudYcc jVLrI9YgJY5sXnLAp8jtP9Sd4zlMozvR8WcjGor6Cu5mmDtwdpTL+ruZDwd0UnwcrV XZZcg4QGLAbNV8w+3cn/uYNror9ZEBLRiCx4c83NSboBCtVOql6VUa6ETgHjpFXOV+ qQux8MJPSHmsw== From: SeongJae Park To: SeongJae Park Cc: Barry Song <21cnbao@gmail.com>, Minchan Kim , akpm@linux-foundation.org, damon@lists.linux.dev, linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mhocko@suse.com, hannes@cmpxchg.org, Barry Song Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC] mm: madvise: pageout: ignore references rather than clearing young Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2024 12:12:21 -0800 Message-Id: <20240224201221.46450-1-sj@kernel.org> X-Mailer: git-send-email 2.39.2 In-Reply-To: <20240224190724.45681-1-sj@kernel.org> References: Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Sat, 24 Feb 2024 11:07:23 -0800 SeongJae Park wrote: > Hi Barry, > > On Sat, 24 Feb 2024 12:37:59 +0800 Barry Song <21cnbao@gmail.com> wrote: > > [...] > > > > BTW\uff0c > > Hi SeongJae, > > I am not quite sure if damon also needs this, so I have kept damon as is by > > setting ignore_references = false. MADV_PAGEOUT is an explicit hint users > > don't want the memory to be reclaimed, I don't know if it is true for damon as > > well. If you have some comments, please chime in. > > Thank you for calling my name :) > > For DAMON's usecase, the document simply says the behavior would be same to > MADV_PAGEOUT, so if we conclude to change MADV_PAGEOUT, I think same change > should be made for DAMON's usecase, or update DAMON document. Thanks to Barry's nice explanation on my other reply to the patch, now I think the change is modest, and therefore I'd prefer the first way: Changing DAMON's usecase, and keep the document as is. Thanks, SJ > > > Thanks, > SJ > > > > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > Thanks > > Barry