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Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2008 13:55:08 -0500
From: Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
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To: Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>, Nigel Cunningham <nigel@nigel.suspend2.net>,
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Subject: Re: Freezing filesystems (Was Re: What's in   store for 2008 for
 TuxOnIce?)
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Theodore Tso wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 02, 2008 at 10:54:18AM +1100, Nigel Cunningham wrote:
>>> I would also like the TuxOnIce issues related to drivers, ACPI, etc. to go to
>>> one of the kernel-related lists, but I think linux-pm may be better for that
>>> due to the much lower traffic.
>> I guess that makes sense. I guess people can always be referred to LKML
>> for the issues where the appropriate person isn't on linux-pm.
> 
> Hi Nigel,
> 
> I'd really recommend pushing the TuxOnIce discussions to LKML.  That
> way people can see the size of the user community and Andrew and Linus
> can see how many people are using TuxOnIce.  They can also see how
> well the TuxOnIce community helps address user problems, which is a
> big consideration when Linus decides whether or not to merge a
> particular technology. 
> 
> If the goal is eventual merger of TuxOnIce, LKML is really the best
> place to have the discussions.  Examples such as Realtime, CFS, and
> others have shown that you really want to keep the discussion front
> and center.  When one developer says, "not my problem; my code is
> perfect", and the other developer is working with users who report
> problems, guess which technology generally ends up getting merged by
> Linus?
> 
Judging from the fact that TuxOnIce is still excluded, I would say the 
answer is obvious. :-(
Posession is nine points of the law...

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