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McKenney" To: Eric Dumazet Cc: Yan Zhai , netdev@vger.kernel.org, "David S. Miller" , Jakub Kicinski , Paolo Abeni , Jiri Pirko , Simon Horman , Daniel Borkmann , Lorenzo Bianconi , Coco Li , Wei Wang , Alexander Duyck , Hannes Frederic Sowa , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, rcu@vger.kernel.org, bpf@vger.kernel.org, kernel-team@cloudflare.com Subject: Re: [PATCH] net: raise RCU qs after each threaded NAPI poll Message-ID: Reply-To: paulmck@kernel.org References: Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: On Tue, Feb 27, 2024 at 05:44:17PM +0100, Eric Dumazet wrote: > On Tue, Feb 27, 2024 at 4:44 PM Yan Zhai wrote: > > > > We noticed task RCUs being blocked when threaded NAPIs are very busy in > > production: detaching any BPF tracing programs, i.e. removing a ftrace > > trampoline, will simply block for very long in rcu_tasks_wait_gp. This > > ranges from hundreds of seconds to even an hour, severely harming any > > observability tools that rely on BPF tracing programs. It can be > > easily reproduced locally with following setup: > > > > ip netns add test1 > > ip netns add test2 > > > > ip -n test1 link add veth1 type veth peer name veth2 netns test2 > > > > ip -n test1 link set veth1 up > > ip -n test1 link set lo up > > ip -n test2 link set veth2 up > > ip -n test2 link set lo up > > > > ip -n test1 addr add 192.168.1.2/31 dev veth1 > > ip -n test1 addr add 1.1.1.1/32 dev lo > > ip -n test2 addr add 192.168.1.3/31 dev veth2 > > ip -n test2 addr add 2.2.2.2/31 dev lo > > > > ip -n test1 route add default via 192.168.1.3 > > ip -n test2 route add default via 192.168.1.2 > > > > for i in `seq 10 210`; do > > for j in `seq 10 210`; do > > ip netns exec test2 iptables -I INPUT -s 3.3.$i.$j -p udp --dport 5201 > > done > > done > > > > ip netns exec test2 ethtool -K veth2 gro on > > ip netns exec test2 bash -c 'echo 1 > /sys/class/net/veth2/threaded' > > ip netns exec test1 ethtool -K veth1 tso off > > > > Then run an iperf3 client/server and a bpftrace script can trigger it: > > > > ip netns exec test2 iperf3 -s -B 2.2.2.2 >/dev/null& > > ip netns exec test1 iperf3 -c 2.2.2.2 -B 1.1.1.1 -u -l 1500 -b 3g -t 100 >/dev/null& > > bpftrace -e 'kfunc:__napi_poll{@=count();} interval:s:1{exit();}' > > > > Above reproduce for net-next kernel with following RCU and preempt > > configuraitons: > > > > # RCU Subsystem > > CONFIG_TREE_RCU=y > > CONFIG_PREEMPT_RCU=y > > # CONFIG_RCU_EXPERT is not set > > CONFIG_SRCU=y > > CONFIG_TREE_SRCU=y > > CONFIG_TASKS_RCU_GENERIC=y > > CONFIG_TASKS_RCU=y > > CONFIG_TASKS_RUDE_RCU=y > > CONFIG_TASKS_TRACE_RCU=y > > CONFIG_RCU_STALL_COMMON=y > > CONFIG_RCU_NEED_SEGCBLIST=y > > # end of RCU Subsystem > > # RCU Debugging > > # CONFIG_RCU_SCALE_TEST is not set > > # CONFIG_RCU_TORTURE_TEST is not set > > # CONFIG_RCU_REF_SCALE_TEST is not set > > CONFIG_RCU_CPU_STALL_TIMEOUT=21 > > CONFIG_RCU_EXP_CPU_STALL_TIMEOUT=0 > > # CONFIG_RCU_TRACE is not set > > # CONFIG_RCU_EQS_DEBUG is not set > > # end of RCU Debugging > > > > CONFIG_PREEMPT_BUILD=y > > # CONFIG_PREEMPT_NONE is not set > > CONFIG_PREEMPT_VOLUNTARY=y > > # CONFIG_PREEMPT is not set > > CONFIG_PREEMPT_COUNT=y > > CONFIG_PREEMPTION=y > > CONFIG_PREEMPT_DYNAMIC=y > > CONFIG_PREEMPT_RCU=y > > CONFIG_HAVE_PREEMPT_DYNAMIC=y > > CONFIG_HAVE_PREEMPT_DYNAMIC_CALL=y > > CONFIG_PREEMPT_NOTIFIERS=y > > # CONFIG_DEBUG_PREEMPT is not set > > # CONFIG_PREEMPT_TRACER is not set > > # CONFIG_PREEMPTIRQ_DELAY_TEST is not set > > > > An interesting observation is that, while tasks RCUs are blocked, > > related NAPI thread is still being scheduled (even across cores) > > regularly. Looking at the gp conditions, I am inclining to cond_resched > > after each __napi_poll being the problem: cond_resched enters the > > scheduler with PREEMPT bit, which does not account as a gp for tasks > > RCUs. Meanwhile, since the thread has been frequently resched, the > > normal scheduling point (no PREEMPT bit, accounted as a task RCU gp) > > seems to have very little chance to kick in. Given the nature of "busy > > polling" program, such NAPI thread won't have task->nvcsw or task->on_rq > > updated (other gp conditions), the result is that such NAPI thread is > > put on RCU holdouts list for indefinitely long time. > > > > This is simply fixed by mirroring the ksoftirqd behavior: after > > NAPI/softirq work, raise a RCU QS to help expedite the RCU period. No > > more blocking afterwards for the same setup. > > > > Fixes: 29863d41bb6e ("net: implement threaded-able napi poll loop support") > > Signed-off-by: Yan Zhai > > --- > > net/core/dev.c | 4 ++++ > > 1 file changed, 4 insertions(+) > > > > diff --git a/net/core/dev.c b/net/core/dev.c > > index 275fd5259a4a..6e41263ff5d3 100644 > > --- a/net/core/dev.c > > +++ b/net/core/dev.c > > @@ -6773,6 +6773,10 @@ static int napi_threaded_poll(void *data) > > net_rps_action_and_irq_enable(sd); > > } > > skb_defer_free_flush(sd); Please put a comment here stating that RCU readers cannot cross this point. I need to add lockdep to rcu_softirq_qs() to catch placing this in an RCU read-side critical section. And a header comment noting that from an RCU perspective, it acts as a momentary enabling of preemption. > > + if (!IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_PREEMPT_RT)) > > + rcu_softirq_qs(); > > + > > local_bh_enable(); > > > > if (!repoll) > > -- > > 2.30.2 > > > > Hmm.... > Why napi_busy_loop() does not have a similar problem ? > > It is unclear why rcu_all_qs() in __cond_resched() is guarded by > > #ifndef CONFIG_PREEMPT_RCU > rcu_all_qs(); > #endif The theory is that PREEMPT_RCU kernels have preemption, and get their quiescent states that way. The more recent practice involves things like PREEMPT_DYNAMIC and maybe soon PREEMPT_AUTO, which might require adjustments, so thank you for pointing this out! Back on the patch, my main other concern is that someone somewhere might be using something like synchronize_rcu() to wait for all in-progress softirq handlers to complete. But I don't know of such a thing, and if there is, there are workarounds, including synchronize_rcu_tasks(). So something to be aware of, not (as far as I know) something to block this commit. With the added comment: Acked-by: Paul E. McKenney Thanx, Paul