Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754404AbYACDvL (ORCPT ); Wed, 2 Jan 2008 22:51:11 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1753844AbYACDuo (ORCPT ); Wed, 2 Jan 2008 22:50:44 -0500 Received: from smtp121.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com ([69.147.64.94]:46493 "HELO smtp121.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S1753378AbYACDun (ORCPT ); Wed, 2 Jan 2008 22:50:43 -0500 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=pacbell.net; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:From:To:Subject:Date:User-Agent:Cc:References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Disposition:Message-Id; b=BS3U2cpziTYaKM5LI4xJOM7xd2lfkY/G9XaiS0nmrGmMimebTIJtl+6eztQ4x3d+v5DrDYxkTVihfQeyyfeZ2NW2HKU31sd0LVCTxHhU5+sTKCln3hUrx0zYXQ8F4xJYyByMndGrK7mFo6YRuXeI9L+qVBpFxpQ5TLkiUdd9Cew= ; X-YMail-OSG: g9DAvNgVM1n560m00hZ8hVDaSJQgTq3aBu_GJlpIetqFK9ChX4O3Qbecj7Lbq6VPJ4XLZN7P1A-- From: David Brownell To: linux-usb-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [linux-usb-devel] [PATCH] : Allow embedded developers USB options normally reserved for OTG Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 19:50:36 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 Cc: Alan Stern , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, gregkh@suse.de, Mike Frysinger , Robin Getz References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200801021950.36677.david-b@pacbell.net> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1373 Lines: 32 On Wednesday 02 January 2008, Alan Stern wrote: > > > The transaction translators in external high speed hubs require > > hosts to issue particular USB transactions. ?If the host controller > > doesn't implement the that split transaction support, then it won't > > be supporting external hubs. > > So in theory one could connect a high-speed hub to such a host > controller and expect it to communicate with high-speed devices. ?So > long as no full- or low-speed devices are added there wouldn't be any > split transactions. ?It wouldn't be USB-2.0 compliant but it should > still work. Yes ... But that would be a nightmare in terms of support calls. Take two USB trees, and swap the hub ... suddenly one of the downstream devices (the full speed one) starts (or stops!) working! That's not the sort of issue any support line wants to cope with on a day-to-day basis. The accounting for those products is often along the lines of: if you got a support call, you didn't profit from that sale. (And from the user perspective it's just a PITA and waste of time.) So *every* confusion like that one gets removed. - Dave -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/