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[147.75.80.249]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y7-20020a056402270700b005662a07d132si3291762edd.454.2024.03.03.07.35.14 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Sun, 03 Mar 2024 07:35:14 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel+bounces-89805-linux.lists.archive=gmail.com@vger.kernel.org designates 147.75.80.249 as permitted sender) client-ip=147.75.80.249; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@lwn.net header.s=20201203 header.b=ls5L7mHc; arc=pass (i=1 spf=pass spfdomain=lwn.net dkim=pass dkdomain=lwn.net dmarc=pass fromdomain=lwn.net); spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel+bounces-89805-linux.lists.archive=gmail.com@vger.kernel.org designates 147.75.80.249 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="linux-kernel+bounces-89805-linux.lists.archive=gmail.com@vger.kernel.org"; dmarc=pass (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=lwn.net Received: from smtp.subspace.kernel.org (wormhole.subspace.kernel.org [52.25.139.140]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by am.mirrors.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 55FAC1F21012 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 2024 15:35:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C043867C56; Sun, 3 Mar 2024 15:35:09 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=lwn.net header.i=@lwn.net header.b="ls5L7mHc" Received: from ms.lwn.net (ms.lwn.net [45.79.88.28]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4A791BE5B; Sun, 3 Mar 2024 15:35:03 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=45.79.88.28 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1709480106; cv=none; b=BN9OqbpI/aV26SuQPec3sugjM/v747tgoYITKLeGzAt6FvpOWO/aOo7GGsiVIWwaN/Nl/78BrRYdBAqi41PEpywB7b67WDGEaBLq7fTGd2dBarNbpFtGjbq0rRF0XKaNZMj8vOLR4iZsiGMKS6p2s1YVANYlUVcjPlbGDqUhZ3Y= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1709480106; c=relaxed/simple; bh=3MKVBHEu0N6EzRncaRdIJP+pdeGSMCtu9w+rZsprsZM=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:Message-ID: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=tHoUX8Fsc6mIxSQO0eykqJfVoL2Sfilg+cpQCAp5JDQ+Ut1AJI7qmlJtWSx9QiJhnvJilbftaiilqw5xPYJWoUT6YKZbxbXOebd8hxRl5n47tAELXgdEaXl4+DMmaaorDK4K7DZeJkCW3Jqxae61K3W4oTSMypHwnNGb3wQvb7A= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=lwn.net; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=lwn.net; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=lwn.net header.i=@lwn.net header.b=ls5L7mHc; arc=none smtp.client-ip=45.79.88.28 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=lwn.net Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=lwn.net DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 ms.lwn.net 8B26C418B6 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=lwn.net; s=20201203; t=1709480102; bh=IqZO9YkoE1oQJOVKbcqklngw16HV175A5ImJkkZYBMY=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=ls5L7mHcAScYICDNrQxaIaXLcKi03oJVmOPhckNxdJ4l5tHNcHa3U7nXX3L1UoSCh Ob1oUAekmTkE2EWCDBotPFws5os2UDbDl78ySX/RQCo5jPDT00JQqjd+kJVjV2eFHK YFUTTwMag6uJgVBHPHiHq3WjlQKB89lUaSocabVy6iUngL3nBhi32moan47eUOqhVO ADz2h9eeBEv8NvyzKoFlIMhOJ1A6HS9/RID+4kahuwPngHDeDV6yAN66UnTXVvpdd3 AYXdV45tVEhMgRbD+ZFtnnlK+j86gQDa/dJmgI0FjGwbKE7NnVmL4g3bkl4bV+i48l CcGZw8hxXBp/g== Received: from localhost (mdns.lwn.net [45.79.72.68]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by ms.lwn.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8B26C418B6; Sun, 3 Mar 2024 15:35:02 +0000 (UTC) From: Jonathan Corbet To: Vegard Nossum , Thorsten Leemhuis Cc: regressions@lists.linux.dev, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Bagas Sanjaya , Nathan Chancellor Subject: Re: [PATCH v1] docs: new text on bisecting which also covers bug validation In-Reply-To: <99b7841b-62d4-404e-815b-5eb5cccd2580@oracle.com> References: <87edd8m7l0.fsf@meer.lwn.net> <99b7841b-62d4-404e-815b-5eb5cccd2580@oracle.com> Date: Sun, 03 Mar 2024 08:35:01 -0700 Message-ID: <87frx7z5ui.fsf@meer.lwn.net> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Vegard Nossum writes: > Something I really like about the current set of books is that they are, > at least in theory, roughly divided by their target audience > (user/admin, userspace dev, kernel dev). That's good, since that was one of my primary goals when I took on the docs maintainership :) > I'd worry that "tutorials" > as a top-level book would unintentionally end up as a very mixed bag of > documents that don't have a clearly defined target audience. Could be. The thing is, there's two axes (at least) that can be used to describe an audience. One is who the readers are; that's what we have been working toward over the years. The other, though, is the type of information they want, traditionally divided into tutorials, how-to guides, explanations, and reference manuals. Mixing those types (as we do now) tends to lead to not doing any of them well. Perhaps the bisection doc is more of a howto, now that I think of it. Anyway, that is a problem that we're not going to be able to solve for the 6.9 merge window, but adding this document is. Thanks, jon