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Meanwhile, host can use qemu-affinity to bind these 8 vCPUs >>>> to specific physical CPUs. >>>> >>>> Therefore, keeping a record of the physical core numbers each time a vCPU runs >>>> can help avoid flushing the cache for all CPUs every time. >>> >>> This needs an unequivocal statement from AMD that flushing caches only on CPUs >>> that do VMRUN is sufficient. That sounds like it should be obviously correct, >>> as I don't see how else a cache line can be dirtied for the encrypted PA, but >>> this entire non-coherent caches mess makes me more than a bit paranoid. >> >> As long as the wbinvd_on_all_cpus() related to the ASID flushing isn't >> changed, this should be ok. And the code currently flushes the source pages >> when doing LAUNCH_UPDATE commands and adding encrypted regions, so should be >> good there. > > Nice, thanks! > >> Would it make sense to make this configurable, with the current behavior the >> default, until testing looks good for a while? > > I don't hate the idea, but I'm inclined to hit the "I'm feeling lucky" button. > I would rather we put in effort to all but guarantee we can do a clean revert in > the future, at which point a kill switch doesn't add all that much value. E.g. > it would allow for a non-disruptive fix, and maybe a slightly faster confirmation > of a bug, but that's about it. > > And since the fallout from this would be host data corruption, _not_ rebooting > hosts that may have been corrupted is probably a bad idea, i.e. the whole > non-disruptive fix benefit is quite dubious. > > The other issue is that it'd be extremely difficult to know when we could/should > remove the kill switch. It might be months or even years before anyone starts > running high volume of SEV/SEV-ES VMs with this optimization. I can run the next version of the patch through our CI and see if it uncovers anything. I just worry about corner cases... but then that's just me. Thanks, Tom