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Wed, 13 Mar 2024 19:11:50 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <2212ce5f-940c-48aa-966d-2b4fa4a5ad8c@acm.org> Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2024 12:11:48 -0700 Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/5] Rust block device driver API and null block driver Content-Language: en-US To: Andreas Hindborg , Boqun Feng Cc: Jens Axboe , Christoph Hellwig , Keith Busch , Damien Le Moal , Hannes Reinecke , "linux-block@vger.kernel.org" , Andreas Hindborg , Niklas Cassel , Greg KH , Matthew Wilcox , Miguel Ojeda , Alex Gaynor , Wedson Almeida Filho , Gary Guo , =?UTF-8?Q?Bj=C3=B6rn_Roy_Baron?= , Benno Lossin , Alice Ryhl , Chaitanya Kulkarni , Luis Chamberlain , Yexuan Yang <1182282462@bupt.edu.cn>, =?UTF-8?Q?Sergio_Gonz=C3=A1lez_Collado?= , Joel Granados , "Pankaj Raghav (Samsung)" , Daniel Gomez , open list , "rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org" , "lsf-pc@lists.linux-foundation.org" , "gost.dev@samsung.com" References: <20240313110515.70088-1-nmi@metaspace.dk> <855a006d-5afc-4f70-90a9-ec94c0414d4f@acm.org> <87r0get0no.fsf@metaspace.dk> From: Bart Van Assche In-Reply-To: <87r0get0no.fsf@metaspace.dk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 3/13/24 12:03, Andreas Hindborg wrote: > I think it is great that people are starting to realize that bringing > memory safety to other systems languages is a good idea. Totally agree :-) > But from one person blogging about it to things being ready for > production is a long journey. In case you wouldn't be aware of this, Herb Sutter is not a random blogger - he is the chair of the ISO C++ standards committee since 2002. Thanks, Bart.