Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752818AbYAHSLb (ORCPT ); Tue, 8 Jan 2008 13:11:31 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1754098AbYAHSLV (ORCPT ); Tue, 8 Jan 2008 13:11:21 -0500 Received: from sovereign.computergmbh.de ([85.214.69.204]:50294 "EHLO sovereign.computergmbh.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752503AbYAHSLU (ORCPT ); Tue, 8 Jan 2008 13:11:20 -0500 Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 19:11:19 +0100 (CET) From: Jan Engelhardt To: Tuomo Valkonen cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: The ext3 way of journalling In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <20080108164847.GA16462@skl-net.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2067 Lines: 52 On Jan 8 2008 17:52, Tuomo Valkonen wrote: >On 2008-01-08, Andre Noll wrote: >> Use tune2fs to deactivate checking. > >So, a workaround is the answer to a clear bug. Typical FOSS. Well if it is a problem for you, why do not you come and fix it? >> Modify the init scripts or use another distro. > >Another typical FOSS answer. "You have the source, you can fix it." >With what time? If you do not like spending time yourself, hire someone. >> Check your tool-chain. Many people compile recent kernels with no problems. > >And recompile and recompile and recompile ad infinitum, because always >some option was missing or wrong, there being far too many of them and >hidden all over the place. Yes. Either you compile or you use a distro kernel. But you do not want either, so that kinda narrows it down. >> Nobody forces you to use udev. Moreover, you can write your own udev >> rules that match your expectations. > >See above on having time to learn over-cryptic systems. http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm . Replace Windows by . >> You're not ranting about Linux but about your Distro. Complain on >> the corresponding distro-specific mailing list, use another distro >> and and stop whining. > >I don't use a distro kernel. I use a kernel I compiled myself over >two years ago. I have tried compiling newer ones, but it's too much >work to get all the options right. And then there's the problem that >the "good" driver for my SATA disk may not be there anymore in the >latest kernels, and so on. I did the same previously. As soon as there was more than three machines to administer, I stopped building kernels the typical way for production machines and instead built one central RPM (sort of distro kernel). I never look back. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/