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Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2024 20:49:40 -0400
From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Gavin Shan <gshan@redhat.com>
Cc: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>, virtualization@lists.linux.dev,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH] virtio_ring: Fix the stale index in available ring
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On Wed, Mar 20, 2024 at 09:56:58AM +1000, Gavin Shan wrote:
> On 3/20/24 04:22, Will Deacon wrote:
> > On Tue, Mar 19, 2024 at 02:59:23PM +1000, Gavin Shan wrote:
> > > On 3/19/24 02:59, Will Deacon wrote:
> > > > >    drivers/virtio/virtio_ring.c | 12 +++++++++---
> > > > >    1 file changed, 9 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
> > > > > 
> > > > > diff --git a/drivers/virtio/virtio_ring.c b/drivers/virtio/virtio_ring.c
> > > > > index 49299b1f9ec7..7d852811c912 100644
> > > > > --- a/drivers/virtio/virtio_ring.c
> > > > > +++ b/drivers/virtio/virtio_ring.c
> > > > > @@ -687,9 +687,15 @@ static inline int virtqueue_add_split(struct virtqueue *_vq,
> > > > >    	avail = vq->split.avail_idx_shadow & (vq->split.vring.num - 1);
> > > > >    	vq->split.vring.avail->ring[avail] = cpu_to_virtio16(_vq->vdev, head);
> > > > > -	/* Descriptors and available array need to be set before we expose the
> > > > > -	 * new available array entries. */
> > > > > -	virtio_wmb(vq->weak_barriers);
> > > > > +	/*
> > > > > +	 * Descriptors and available array need to be set before we expose
> > > > > +	 * the new available array entries. virtio_wmb() should be enough
> > > > > +	 * to ensuere the order theoretically. However, a stronger barrier
> > > > > +	 * is needed by ARM64. Otherwise, the stale data can be observed
> > > > > +	 * by the host (vhost). A stronger barrier should work for other
> > > > > +	 * architectures, but performance loss is expected.
> > > > > +	 */
> > > > > +	virtio_mb(false);
> > > > >    	vq->split.avail_idx_shadow++;
> > > > >    	vq->split.vring.avail->idx = cpu_to_virtio16(_vq->vdev,
> > > > >    						vq->split.avail_idx_shadow);
> > > > 
> > > > Replacing a DMB with a DSB is _very_ unlikely to be the correct solution
> > > > here, especially when ordering accesses to coherent memory.
> > > > 
> > > > In practice, either the larger timing different from the DSB or the fact
> > > > that you're going from a Store->Store barrier to a full barrier is what
> > > > makes things "work" for you. Have you tried, for example, a DMB SY
> > > > (e.g. via __smb_mb()).
> > > > 
> > > > We definitely shouldn't take changes like this without a proper
> > > > explanation of what is going on.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > Thanks for your comments, Will.
> > > 
> > > Yes, DMB should work for us. However, it seems this instruction has issues on
> > > NVidia's grace-hopper. It's hard for me to understand how DMB and DSB works
> > > from hardware level. I agree it's not the solution to replace DMB with DSB
> > > before we fully understand the root cause.
> > > 
> > > I tried the possible replacement like below. __smp_mb() can avoid the issue like
> > > __mb() does. __ndelay(10) can avoid the issue, but __ndelay(9) doesn't.
> > > 
> > > static inline int virtqueue_add_split(struct virtqueue *_vq, ...)
> > > {
> > >      :
> > >          /* Put entry in available array (but don't update avail->idx until they
> > >           * do sync). */
> > >          avail = vq->split.avail_idx_shadow & (vq->split.vring.num - 1);
> > >          vq->split.vring.avail->ring[avail] = cpu_to_virtio16(_vq->vdev, head);
> > > 
> > >          /* Descriptors and available array need to be set before we expose the
> > >           * new available array entries. */
> > >          // Broken: virtio_wmb(vq->weak_barriers);
> > >          // Broken: __dma_mb();
> > >          // Work:   __mb();
> > >          // Work:   __smp_mb();
> > 
> > It's pretty weird that __dma_mb() is "broken" but __smp_mb() "works". How
> > confident are you in that result?
> > 
> 
> Yes, __dma_mb() is even stronger than __smp_mb(). I retried the test, showing
> that both __dma_mb() and __smp_mb() work for us. I had too many tests yesterday
> and something may have been messed up.
> 
> Instruction         Hitting times in 10 tests
> ---------------------------------------------
> __smp_wmb()         8
> __smp_mb()          0
> __dma_wmb()         7
> __dma_mb()          0
> __mb()              0
> __wmb()             0
> 
> It's strange that __smp_mb() works, but __smp_wmb() fails. It seems we need a
> read barrier here. I will try WRITE_ONCE() + __smp_wmb() as suggested by Michael
> in another reply. Will update the result soon.
> 
> Thanks,
> Gavin


I think you are wasting the time with these tests. Even if it helps what
does this tell us? Try setting a flag as I suggested elsewhere.
Then check it in vhost.
Or here's another idea - possibly easier. Copy the high bits from index
into ring itself. Then vhost can check that head is synchronized with
index.

Warning: completely untested, not even compiled. But should give you
the idea. If this works btw we should consider making this official in
the spec.


 static inline int vhost_get_avail_flags(struct vhost_virtqueue *vq,
diff --git a/drivers/virtio/virtio_ring.c b/drivers/virtio/virtio_ring.c
index 6f7e5010a673..79456706d0bd 100644
--- a/drivers/virtio/virtio_ring.c
+++ b/drivers/virtio/virtio_ring.c
@@ -685,7 +685,8 @@ static inline int virtqueue_add_split(struct virtqueue *_vq,
 	/* Put entry in available array (but don't update avail->idx until they
 	 * do sync). */
 	avail = vq->split.avail_idx_shadow & (vq->split.vring.num - 1);
-	vq->split.vring.avail->ring[avail] = cpu_to_virtio16(_vq->vdev, head);
+	u16 headwithflag = head | (q->split.avail_idx_shadow & ~(vq->split.vring.num - 1));
+	vq->split.vring.avail->ring[avail] = cpu_to_virtio16(_vq->vdev, headwithflag);
 
 	/* Descriptors and available array need to be set before we expose the
 	 * new available array entries. */

diff --git a/drivers/vhost/vhost.c b/drivers/vhost/vhost.c
index 045f666b4f12..bd8f7c763caa 100644
--- a/drivers/vhost/vhost.c
+++ b/drivers/vhost/vhost.c
@@ -1299,8 +1299,15 @@ static inline int vhost_get_avail_idx(struct vhost_virtqueue *vq,
 static inline int vhost_get_avail_head(struct vhost_virtqueue *vq,
 				       __virtio16 *head, int idx)
 {
-	return vhost_get_avail(vq, *head,
+	unsigned i = idx;
+	unsigned flag = i & ~(vq->num - 1);
+	unsigned val = vhost_get_avail(vq, *head,
 			       &vq->avail->ring[idx & (vq->num - 1)]);
+	unsigned valflag = val & ~(vq->num - 1);
+
+	WARN_ON(valflag != flag);
+
+	return val & (vq->num - 1);
 }
 
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MST