Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 17:02:55 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 17:02:47 -0500 Received: from dsl254-112-233.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net ([216.254.112.233]:51331 "EHLO snark.thyrsus.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 17:01:27 -0500 Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 16:47:57 -0500 From: "Eric S. Raymond" To: Dave Jones Cc: Alan Cox , Linux Kernel List Subject: Re: ISA slot detection on PCI systems? Message-ID: <20020102164757.A16976@thyrsus.com> Reply-To: esr@thyrsus.com Mail-Followup-To: "Eric S. Raymond" , Dave Jones , Alan Cox , Linux Kernel List In-Reply-To: <20020102163043.A16513@thyrsus.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from davej@suse.de on Wed, Jan 02, 2002 at 10:48:28PM +0100 Organization: Eric Conspiracy Secret Labs X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Dave Jones : > > Consider the lives of people administering large server farms or > > clusters. Their hardware is not necessarily homogenous, and the > > ability to query the DMI tables on the fly could be useful both > > for administration and automatic process migration. > > Given that 'dmidecode' works fine in those circumstances, that's still > not a convincing argument imo. But only for people and programs with root privileges. It all turns then, on whether we want to insist that all software doing hardware probing must have root privileges to function. I submit that the answer is "no" -- the right direction, for security and other reasons, is to make *fewer* capabilities dependent on root privileges rather than more, and to reject design approaches that imply creating more suid programs to give ordinary users capabilities that involve only *reading* config information. There is already stuff in /proc that seems to be there for precisely this reason. So /proc/dmi would hardly be a violation of norms. -- Eric S. Raymond Everything that is really great and inspiring is created by the individual who can labor in freedom. -- Albert Einstein, in H. Eves Return to Mathematical Circles, Boston: Prindle, Weber and Schmidt, 1988. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/