Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1758924AbYAJN1l (ORCPT ); Thu, 10 Jan 2008 08:27:41 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1754781AbYAJN1c (ORCPT ); Thu, 10 Jan 2008 08:27:32 -0500 Received: from [212.12.190.45] ([212.12.190.45]:52104 "EHLO raad.intranet" rhost-flags-FAIL-FAIL-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1754411AbYAJN1c (ORCPT ); Thu, 10 Jan 2008 08:27:32 -0500 From: Al Boldi To: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [RFD] Incremental fsck Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 16:26:53 +0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org References: <200801090022.55589.a1426z@gawab.com> <200801091452.14890.a1426z@gawab.com> <20080109094412.73f3249c@cuia.boston.redhat.com> In-Reply-To: <20080109094412.73f3249c@cuia.boston.redhat.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200801101626.53315.a1426z@gawab.com> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1244 Lines: 41 Rik van Riel wrote: > Al Boldi wrote: > > Ok, but let's look at this a bit more opportunistic / optimistic. > > You can't play fast and loose with data integrity. Correct, but you have to be realistic... > Besides, if we looked at things optimistically, we would conclude > that no fsck will be needed, And that's the reality, because people are mostly optimistic and feel extremely tempted to just force-mount a dirty ext3fs, instead of waiting hours-on-end for a complete fsck, which mostly comes back with some benign "inode should be zero" warning. > ever :) Well not ever, but most people probably fsck during scheduled shutdowns, or when they are forced to, due to online fs accessibility errors. > > > http://infohost.nmt.edu/~val/review/chunkfs.pdf > > You will really want to read this paper, if you haven't already. Definitely a good read, but attacking the problem from a completely different POV. BTW: Dropped some cc's due to bounces. Thanks! -- Al -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/