Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1760862AbYAJTaI (ORCPT ); Thu, 10 Jan 2008 14:30:08 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1752900AbYAJT3v (ORCPT ); Thu, 10 Jan 2008 14:29:51 -0500 Received: from one.firstfloor.org ([213.235.205.2]:40146 "EHLO one.firstfloor.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752848AbYAJT3u (ORCPT ); Thu, 10 Jan 2008 14:29:50 -0500 Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 20:32:27 +0100 From: Andi Kleen To: James Bottomley Cc: Andi Kleen , Andre Noll , linux-scsi , linux-kernel , kernel-janitors@vger.kernel.org, Richard Knutsson Subject: Re: [patch 1/1] Switch ioctl functions of drivers/scsi/sg.c to unlocked_ioctl Message-ID: <20080110193227.GH747@one.firstfloor.org> References: <20080110180529.GA32640@skl-net.de> <1199991298.3141.75.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20080110185944.GA1690@one.firstfloor.org> <1199991828.3141.82.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1199991828.3141.82.camel@localhost.localdomain> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1321 Lines: 33 On Thu, Jan 10, 2008 at 01:03:48PM -0600, James Bottomley wrote: > > On Thu, 2008-01-10 at 19:59 +0100, Andi Kleen wrote: > > > Really, all this is doing is open coding what the ioctl handler is doing > > > anyway, isn't it? in which case, why bother to change it at all? > > > > Because once it's open coded it is visible and can then be eliminated. > > Does SCSI need the BKL at all? > > No, of course not ... it hasn't for ages, otherwise linux performance > would be in the tank. If we require the BKL at all in the ioctl path it > will be to protect the non-SCSI structures we have to use. Is there any > guide to which structures in the kernel still require the BKL? Not many really in the core kernel. Hardly any. Grep for lock_kernel to be sure, but there is not much. It's mostly drivers that still need it. How about the low level SCSI drivers that might called from the high level SCSI code? Anyways starting these kinds of discussions was the goal of the proposal. Even if Andre's patch ends up not being merged it would have reached its goal. -Andi -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/