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From:   Geunsik Lim <geunsik.lim@gmail.com>
Date:   Sun, 26 Nov 2017 20:23:24 +0900
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Subject: Re: About GPL license compliance of Tesla Model S, Linux kernel 4.4
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        Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
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Here is my next activity.

After reading http://gpl-violations.org/helping/,
I have reported this issue to solve a potential GPL misuse about the
Linux kernel open source code
that is used to deploy Tesla Model S (Linux kernel based commercial product).


BRs,
Geunsik Lim.


On Sat, Nov 25, 2017 at 4:48 PM, Geunsik Lim <geunsik.lim@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I want to talk about a potential GPL misuse of the Linux open source
> that is used by Tesla Model S. Some months ago, I have read that a
> version information of Linux kernel that is deployed into the
> commercial self-driving car such as Tesla Model S via (1) the twitter
> web page of Tesla CEO Elon Musk  and (2) the presentation material of
> the Blackhat 2017  presenter Sen Nie as follows.
>
> Oct-05-2016, Twitter, "When we upgrade the core Linux OS to 4.4, which
> is probably December"
> https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/783759011724210176
>
> Jul-22-2017, Blackhat 2017, "FREE-FALL: HACKING TESLA FROM WIRELESS TO CAN BUS"
> https://www.blackhat.com/us-17/briefings.html#free-fall-hacking-tesla-from-wireless-to-can-bus
>
>
> In case of the embedded device vendors, it seems that the most of the
> global vendors have being uploaded related open source software that
> are used by commercial products via their open source release center
> to keep the GPL compliance as following:
>
> https://opensource.google.com/
> https://opensource.microsoft.com/
> https://opensource.apple.com
> https://opensource.samsung.com
> https://opensource.lge.com
> https://opensource.dell.com/
> http://opensource.alibaba.com/
> https://developer.sonymobile.com/knowledge-base/open-source/
> http://consumer.huawei.com/en/opensource/
> http://xiaomi.github.io/
> https://software.intel.com/en-us/open-source
>
>
> Also, we can download related open sources such as Linux kernel, GCC,
> and so on from their official homepage in case of BMW, GM, Ford, and
> Toyota cars.
>
> BMW - http://www.bmw-carit.de/open-source/
> GM - http://oss.bosch-cm.com/gm.html
> Ford - http://corporate.ford.com/ford-open-source.html
> Toyota - http://www.globaldenso.com/en/opensource/ivi/toyota/
>
>
> BTW, in case of Tesla, where can we find an official open source
> release center to download their Linux kernel source that is deployed
> into a commercial self-driving car? I could not find an official web
> page of Tesla to download Linux Kernel 4.4 (GPLv2) and other open
> sources that are used by Tesla company. And, I can not find the
> related Linux kernel source code from https://github.com/teslamotors.
> Unfortunately, even though I asked a person in charging on this issue,
> they do not reply me any e-mail for 2 weeks. Anyone that already tried
> to get their Linux kernel source of Tesla Model S?
>
> As we all know, Linus Torvalds has released his Linux Kernel under
> GPLv2 license via https://www.kernel.org/.
> For more details, please visit the below web-pages.
>
> https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/COPYING?h=v4.4
> http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.en.html#GPLRequireSourcePostedPublic
>
> I wonder if they correctly keep the GPL compliance because I am not a lawyer.
>
>
> Thanks for reading.
>
>
>
> BRs,
> Geunsik Lim.
>
>
>
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