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Some months ago, I have read that a version information of Linux kernel that is deployed into the commercial self-driving car such as Tesla Model S via (1) the twitter web page of Tesla CEO Elon Musk and (2) the presentation material of the Blackhat 2017 presenter Sen Nie as follows. Oct-05-2016, Twitter, "When we upgrade the core Linux OS to 4.4, which is probably December" https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/783759011724210176 Jul-22-2017, Blackhat 2017, "FREE-FALL: HACKING TESLA FROM WIRELESS TO CAN BUS" https://www.blackhat.com/us-17/briefings.html#free-fall-hacking-tesla-from-wireless-to-can-bus In case of the embedded device vendors, it seems that the most of the global vendors have being uploaded related open source software that are used by commercial products via their open source release center to keep the GPL compliance as following: https://opensource.google.com/ https://opensource.microsoft.com/ https://opensource.apple.com https://opensource.samsung.com https://opensource.lge.com https://opensource.dell.com/ http://opensource.alibaba.com/ https://developer.sonymobile.com/knowledge-base/open-source/ http://consumer.huawei.com/en/opensource/ http://xiaomi.github.io/ https://software.intel.com/en-us/open-source Also, we can download related open sources such as Linux kernel, GCC, and so on from their official homepage in case of BMW, GM, Ford, and Toyota cars. BMW - http://www.bmw-carit.de/open-source/ GM - http://oss.bosch-cm.com/gm.html Ford - http://corporate.ford.com/ford-open-source.html Toyota - http://www.globaldenso.com/en/opensource/ivi/toyota/ BTW, in case of Tesla, where can we find an official open source release center to download their Linux kernel source that is deployed into a commercial self-driving car? I could not find an official web page of Tesla to download Linux Kernel 4.4 (GPLv2) and other open sources that are used by Tesla company. And, I can not find the related Linux kernel source code from https://github.com/teslamotors. Unfortunately, even though I asked a person in charging on this issue, they do not reply me any e-mail for 2 weeks. Anyone that already tried to get their Linux kernel source of Tesla Model S? As we all know, Linus Torvalds has released his Linux Kernel under GPLv2 license via https://www.kernel.org/. For more details, please visit the below web-pages. https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/COPYING?h=v4.4 http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.en.html#GPLRequireSourcePostedPublic I wonder if they correctly keep the GPL compliance because I am not a lawyer. Thanks for reading. BRs, Geunsik Lim. ---- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/ ---- From 1585202905101059797@xxx Mon Nov 27 07:21:36 +0000 2017 X-GM-THRID: 1585202905101059797 X-Gmail-Labels: Inbox,Category Forums,HistoricalUnread