Received: by 10.223.164.202 with SMTP id h10csp3993362wrb; Mon, 20 Nov 2017 08:12:27 -0800 (PST) X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGs4zMZYRT8E8t+/caBoNGQVfWzmz2n1gjT6C3a/tDKjMbx80OMTYsRHQFfuNYznlyiqTXrzE+cn X-Received: by 10.98.7.149 with SMTP id 21mr11910089pfh.14.1511194347444; Mon, 20 Nov 2017 08:12:27 -0800 (PST) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1511194347; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=GTtSF05lTtnG0ElkP9modlE1GlAl4oq8oJy9osx7ZO08EVHqLLkROn4cvtg0+hVPdD ZLFogJ5T6SxshKlmXWWKA6novKyeu0KHjyZ0agEaFmgOgsc0v5Vh1R7IF8urabLm61TB tsgr2YdeEQbjPVIOkQ7eVp2vmj1wd5fuoZBH1Th1atL66VirqQSodVoUPeU94K+jG1iJ o3J/t7Z1yDcIp1ZAqgBQ4js70jyEEz3dSgW00G1pl/ryULUG18nbLobPy8iJs3wYRngB +esOpPF5f4L1ZY5WZ0AOGmTpeeZsH9iioeV9pZO8U8G6nqcA4xaP4l9TE2LMrevuPxJk 435g== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=list-id:precedence:sender:user-agent:in-reply-to :content-disposition:mime-version:references:message-id:subject:cc :to:from:date:arc-authentication-results; bh=nXQv6nRywPqAR7C+xZJTJ5ndRJzELCfp7y7ckkv6IVU=; b=TWGq4X5JCgb1eYRmgOJh5Snas1gean1P9f7IrgUhKAaie8dr+Q+JzepXhXy1FGKIzS QBLL9aIkUXrlGFM3iw9VK9Ptic8BS8CL22s4yEx8sYdjIc2gjni+tLEASZ+0e5Yj0c8M 4W8zL3uqklzgUrnnetfbGMe28fbLT9qGAFhYbcip2N6gNGVztSCtlnteSmvlrl2NhERT W9cyKMTGl3d75Ph/zYnrBms8uaI5WXj/JCoXsgcZbWZwxkMNv2nDRttvwsGTR6UzTIjd jSRC7VeW1s+ketg9gJYX2DRrWNz1dOpJR+wTxA2lqFIcENXYT7bn2AAaSXdYS5T3Zr4N Skxw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Return-Path: Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org. [209.132.180.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id w3si8432773pge.245.2017.11.20.08.12.17; Mon, 20 Nov 2017 08:12:27 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.132.180.67; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751621AbdKTQLf (ORCPT + 66 others); Mon, 20 Nov 2017 11:11:35 -0500 Received: from mx2.suse.de ([195.135.220.15]:45786 "EHLO mx2.suse.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751590AbdKTQLd (ORCPT ); Mon, 20 Nov 2017 11:11:33 -0500 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at test-mx.suse.de Received: from relay1.suse.de (charybdis-ext.suse.de [195.135.220.254]) by mx2.suse.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74297ACCD; Mon, 20 Nov 2017 16:11:31 +0000 (UTC) Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2017 17:10:29 +0100 From: Cyril Hrubis To: Tom Gall Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux- stable , torvalds@linux-foundation.org, Greg Kroah-Hartman , linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org, ltp@lists.linux.it, shuahkh@osg.samsung.com, Guenter Roeck Subject: Re: [LTP] Towards 4.14 LTS Message-ID: <20171120161029.GA2188@rei> References: <5E1947BC-9D22-42EB-BA29-96EA15A9C817@linaro.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5E1947BC-9D22-42EB-BA29-96EA15A9C817@linaro.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.7.2 (2016-11-26) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Hi! > So why didn???t we report these? As mentioned we???ve been tossing out dodgy > test cases to get to a clean baseline. We don???t need or want noise. > > For LTS, I want the system when it detects a failure to enable a quick > bisect involving the affected test bucket. Given the nature of kernel > bugs tho, there is that class of bug which only happens occasionally. >From my experience debugging kernel bugs requires an actuall human interaction and there is only certain level of automation that can be achieved. Don't take me wrong, automatic bisection and other bells and whistles are a nice to have, but at the end of the day you usually need someone to reproduce/look at the problem, possibly check the source code, report a bug, etc. Hence it does not make much sense to have an automated system without dedicated engineers assigned to review the test results. -- Cyril Hrubis chrubis@suse.cz From 1584511431171406574@xxx Sun Nov 19 16:10:55 +0000 2017 X-GM-THRID: 1584318260606186478 X-Gmail-Labels: Inbox,Category Forums,HistoricalUnread