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[209.132.180.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id h6si1171714pgn.451.2017.11.14.14.42.34; Tue, 14 Nov 2017 14:42:47 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.132.180.67; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@dd-wrt.com header.s=mikd header.b=EBXmGGb2; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 209.132.180.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=NONE sp=REJECT dis=NONE) header.from=dd-wrt.com Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1756839AbdKNWk7 (ORCPT + 87 others); Tue, 14 Nov 2017 17:40:59 -0500 Received: from smtps.newmedia-net.de ([185.84.6.167]:41120 "EHLO webmail.newmedia-net.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752684AbdKNWkv (ORCPT ); Tue, 14 Nov 2017 17:40:51 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=dd-wrt.com; s=mikd; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Date:Message-ID:From:References:Cc:To:Subject; bh=MwUqR48/F2Jd+d8QMa374dxpBBTSrAiKSbcwq4syI2A=; b=EBXmGGb2yrWc9g30luVwk9C8fiiXfKyJN5Od46oxUhJBpjaPCxbW6ykz0lC8JQdHOiy76sE5AuUsvLfPoizoArxM0Msjt3y6h/bQ2VLIO4RNAlzPgYz6ksrZR1SUahFhTi7A3l9YhXQMYoyqfLaQ4dGBbrf1n1ftvzMU5TGCwWg=; Subject: Re: Linux 3.10.108 (EOL) To: Willy Tarreau Cc: Harsh Shandilya , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, stable@vger.kernel.org References: <20171104230639.GA25503@1wt.eu> <20171105074659.GA26639@1wt.eu> <29db159f-7cb3-1a4f-28a2-73830f8afc22@dd-wrt.com> <20171114221844.GA3929@1wt.eu> From: Sebastian Gottschall Message-ID: Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2017 23:40:31 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:56.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/56.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20171114221844.GA3929@1wt.eu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Received: from [2003:72:e23:d600:e198:7c79:c9c:5fce] by webmail.newmedia-net.de with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1eEjse-0005za-Oe; Tue, 14 Nov 2017 23:40:33 +0100 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Am 14.11.2017 um 23:18 schrieb Willy Tarreau: > On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 11:00:46PM +0100, Sebastian Gottschall wrote: >> Am 05.11.2017 um 08:46 schrieb Willy Tarreau: >>> On Sun, Nov 05, 2017 at 06:59:48AM +0000, Harsh Shandilya wrote: >>>> Is this not pushed yet? I only see 3.10.107 >>> Now it is there. Please avoid to rely on it for too long and quickly >>> upgrade to 4.4 or any other maintained version that suits your needs. >>> >>> Willy >>> >> even if EOL has to come once for sure, its the last kernel which can be used >> on certain devices (embedded) since the kernel is growing bigger and bigger >> and wont run good anymore with limited resource > It's not totally true, each new kernel also provides options to disable > certain parts that are not used by everyone (syscalls, subsystems, etc). > > And anyway the end of life has been indicated on kernel.org for 18 months > and in every announce in 2017, so it cannot be a surprize anymore :-) At > least nobody seemed to complain for all this time! itsn no surprise for sure, but that also means i have to stay on the old kernel for these special devices and your argument about disable certain parts which simply turned bigger over time is no option since it would remove features which existed before. its not that i enable all features of the kernel. i use every kernel with the same options (some are adjusted since they are renamed or moved) but even then the kernel is turning into a ram and space eating monster if i look on devices with 16 mb ram and 4 mb flash. this is mainly for maintaining older hardware with latest updates. the more recent hardware is getting better here you dont seem to know how it is to work on wireless routers :-) > > Cheers, > Willy > -- Mit freundlichen Grüssen / Regards Sebastian Gottschall / CTO NewMedia-NET GmbH - DD-WRT Firmensitz: Stubenwaldallee 21a, 64625 Bensheim Registergericht: Amtsgericht Darmstadt, HRB 25473 Geschäftsführer: Peter Steinhäuser, Christian Scheele http://www.dd-wrt.com email: s.gottschall@dd-wrt.com Tel.: +496251-582650 / Fax: +496251-5826565 From 1584081650339218401@xxx Tue Nov 14 22:19:45 +0000 2017 X-GM-THRID: 1583178695925062070 X-Gmail-Labels: Inbox,Category Forums,HistoricalUnread