Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 21:10:57 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 21:10:48 -0500 Received: from cpe-24-221-152-185.az.sprintbbd.net ([24.221.152.185]:61061 "EHLO opus.bloom.county") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 21:10:42 -0500 Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 19:10:21 -0700 From: Tom Rini To: David Woodhouse Cc: Alan Cox , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linuxppc-dev@lists.linuxppc.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] C undefined behavior fix Message-ID: <20020103021021.GW1803@cpe-24-221-152-185.az.sprintbbd.net> In-Reply-To: <25193.1010018130@redhat.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <25193.1010018130@redhat.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.24i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 12:35:30AM +0000, David Woodhouse wrote: > > (cc list trimmed) > > alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk said: > > If you want a strcpy that isnt strcpy then change its name or use a > > different language 8) > > The former is not necessarily sufficient in this case. You've still done the > broken pointer arithmetic, so even if the function isn't called strcpy() the > compiler is _still_ entitled to replace it with a call to memcpy() or even > machine_restart() before sleeping with your mother and starting WW III. > > Granted, it probably _won't_ do any of those today, but you should know > better than to rely on that. > > What part of 'undefined behaviour' is so difficult for people to understand? I think it comes down to an expectation that if the behaviour is undefined, anything _could_ happen, but what should happen is that it should just be passed along to (in this case) strcpy un-modified. Anything _could_ happen, but why do something that probably won't help all the same? But this is moot anyhow since I _think_ Paul's suggestion of doing RELOC and friends as asm will work (and echo'd by rth?). -- Tom Rini (TR1265) http://gate.crashing.org/~trini/ - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/