Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 01:00:39 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 01:00:29 -0500 Received: from dsl254-112-233.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net ([216.254.112.233]:49541 "EHLO snark.thyrsus.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 01:00:24 -0500 Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 00:46:04 -0500 From: "Eric S. Raymond" To: Andrew Morton Cc: Dave Jones , Lionel Bouton , Alan Cox , Linux Kernel List , kbuild-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: ISA slot detection on PCI systems? Message-ID: <20020103004604.A3842@thyrsus.com> Reply-To: esr@thyrsus.com Mail-Followup-To: "Eric S. Raymond" , Andrew Morton , Dave Jones , Lionel Bouton , Alan Cox , Linux Kernel List , kbuild-devel@lists.sourceforge.net In-Reply-To: <20020102211038.C21788@thyrsus.com> <3C33EC64.8E505D54@zip.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3C33EC64.8E505D54@zip.com.au>; from akpm@zip.com.au on Wed, Jan 02, 2002 at 09:30:12PM -0800 Organization: Eric Conspiracy Secret Labs X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Andrew Morton : > If Eric can get the entire download-config-build-install process > down to a single mouse click, he'll have done us all a great service. Single-mouse-click configuration isn't going to happen soon. It may not happen at all. However, I believe pushing in that direction is worthwhile. Configuration *can* be made a helluva lot easier than it is now. Easier than I think most kernel developers would believe possible, at least before sitting down to a serious think and abandoning a lot of long-held assumptions about how things `have' to be. CML2 was the first step. It gives us a tool that can guarantee the correctness and consistency of configuration changes according to a rulebase. The autoconfigurator that Giacomo Catenazzi started, which I am now integrating with CML2, is the next step. I expect it to reduce the task complexity for typical configuration cases by 90%. It's pretty effective, including more than 2500 probes. I don't know what the third step will be yet. It depends partly on what that remaining 10% looks like. -- Eric S. Raymond "Experience should teach us to be most on our guard to protect liberty when the government's purposes are beneficient...The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well meaning but without understanding." -- Supreme Court Justice Louis Brandeis - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/