Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753216AbYAOLEk (ORCPT ); Tue, 15 Jan 2008 06:04:40 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1750990AbYAOLEc (ORCPT ); Tue, 15 Jan 2008 06:04:32 -0500 Received: from smtp2.linux-foundation.org ([207.189.120.14]:49641 "EHLO smtp2.linux-foundation.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750768AbYAOLEb (ORCPT ); Tue, 15 Jan 2008 06:04:31 -0500 Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 03:04:41 -0800 From: Andrew Morton To: Abhishek Rai , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, rohitseth@google.com, linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [CALL FOR TESTING] Make Ext3 fsck way faster [2.6.24-rc6 -mm patch] Message-Id: <20080115030441.a0270609.akpm@linux-foundation.org> In-Reply-To: <20080114163412.83a8b18d.akpm@linux-foundation.org> References: <200801140839.01986.abhishekrai@google.com> <20080114163412.83a8b18d.akpm@linux-foundation.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.1 (GTK+ 2.8.17; x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 923 Lines: 21 I'm wondering about the real value of this change, really. In any decent environment, people will fsck their ext3 filesystems during planned downtime, and the benefit of reducing that downtime from 6 hours/machine to 2 hours/machine is probably fairly small, given that there is no service interruption. (The same applies to desktops and laptops). Sure, the benefit is not *zero*, but it's small. Much less than it would be with ext2. I mean, the "avoid unplanned fscks" feature is the whole reason why ext3 has journalling (and boy is that feature expensive during normal operation). So... it's unobvious that the benefit of this feature is worth its risks and costs? -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/